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U.S. Warns Against U.N. Takeover of the Net
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Msg#: 4460389 posted 2:49 pm on Jun 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

I completely agree, we can't have one outfit taking control.

The Internet is like the free market.

U.S. Warns Against U.N. Takeover of the Net [news.cnet.com]
Democratic and Republican government officials warned this morning that a United Nations summit in December will lead to a virtual takeover of the Internet if proposals from China, Russia, Iran, and Saudi Arabia are adopted.

It was a rare point of bipartisan agreement during an election year: a proposal that Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin described last year as handing the U.N. "international control of the Internet" must be stopped.

"These are terrible ideas," Rep. Fred Upton, a Michigan Republican, said during a U.S. House of Representatives hearing. They could allow "governments to monitor and restrict content or impose economic costs upon international data flows," added Ambassador Philip Verveer, a deputy assistant secretary of state.

 

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 3:15 pm on Jun 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

Umm ..I think that the threat to freedom of speech ( by the repressive regimes in the CRIS cabal ) may be much more important, than the threat to the free market aspects..

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 5:17 pm on Jun 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

"free market" includes the free market of ideas

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 5:34 pm on Jun 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

"market" doesn't mean free ..it means to sell..

The cited sponsoring countries would be perfectly happy to let anyone sell most anything , including other people ..just as long as they could control the freedom of speech of their own citizens more efficiently by curbing the freedom of speech of the citizens of other countries via "internet rules"..

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 8:32 pm on Jun 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

I think we missed each other's point. :)

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 10:05 pm on Jun 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

and what makes the USA so special ?

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 10:12 pm on Jun 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

For informational balance..
[theregister.co.uk...]
I would suggest also reading the comments there , for those who don't know the "background" to this..

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 10:32 pm on Jun 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

and what makes the USA so special ? 

Our government officials like to spend half the money they take from us on booze, gambling, and women. The rest of it they squander.

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 4:10 am on Jun 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

Part of the problem is that the US is regulating the internet a lot more itself, making the ITU look more attractive - by doing things such as asserting jurisdiction over all sites with .com, .net and .org domains.

The other is that no-one knows how the ITU would regulate the internet. The ideas talked about in the article (per page load charging, tracing mechanisms) are terrible, but not publicised, and no-one is sure they would be implemented.

The big clue that this is a bad idea comes from which countries back it: China, Russia, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.

One possible outcome is a fragmentation of the internet, with those countries and their supporters setting up a parallel internet.

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 10:54 pm on Jun 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

Our government officials like to spend half the money they take from us on booze, gambling, and women. The rest of it they squander


thats over in [webmasterworld.com...]

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 12:49 pm on Jun 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

and what makes the USA so special ?


Money.

Personally, I think the fine little county of Luxembourg should be endowed with running the internet. It might give them an actual economy and if they get out of hand a fly swatter is sufficient to bring them back in line.

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Msg#: 4460389 posted 12:57 pm on Jun 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

Money.

That would be China..the US, like the rest of us, has debt..the US more than most..

Given how many Corps are based, ( for tax purposes ) in Luxembourg, it may well be that indirectly they, ( and other tax havens ) do run a large chunk of it :)

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