Marshall

msg:4443020 | 3:08 pm on Apr 19, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| All it takes is a a thief to be close enough to the contactless technology to do the deed. |
| Agreed. Marshall
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incrediBILL

msg:4443261 | 4:46 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
If I'm not mistaken the contactless pay systems use a special CC number that only authorizes small amounts vs. the normal swipe scanning methods. ... and a PIN # for all CC transactions, like ATM transactions, completely thwarts the thieves so why aren't all CC transactions PIN confirmed?
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topr8

msg:4443280 | 7:01 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| ... and a PIN # for all CC transactions, like ATM transactions, completely thwarts the thieves so why aren't all CC transactions PIN confirmed? |
| they are in europe, in my b&m business, we've only been accepting PIN confirmed transactions for some years.
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piatkow

msg:4444243 | 1:50 pm on Apr 23, 2012 (gmt 0) |
we've only been accepting PIN confirmed transactions for some years. |
| Do you mean that you refuse chip and signature cards? They are rare but refusal would be a breach of disability discrimination rules.
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incrediBILL

msg:4444303 | 3:37 pm on Apr 23, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| They are rare but refusal would be a breach of disability discrimination rules. |
| Since when are requiring secure payment methods to avoid being defrauded considered discrimination? Accepting credit cards isn't a requirement in the first place. FWIW, I've watched someone with no hands and no prosthetics type in a PIN # checking out at a grocery store, just using his stump, and that's a pretty severe handicap. I've also worked for part owner of a company that was a quadriplegic who could also manage to enter a PIN #, might take a bit, but he could do it.
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lawman

msg:4444336 | 5:25 pm on Apr 23, 2012 (gmt 0) |
What about Stephen Hawking?
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Leosghost

msg:4444345 | 5:32 pm on Apr 23, 2012 (gmt 0) |
He has someone to pay for things and use his card etc for him..the job of "personal assistant" to Stephen Hawking was advertised again recently..about $30,000.00 pa IIRC..
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topr8

msg:4444352 | 5:49 pm on Apr 23, 2012 (gmt 0) |
>>Do you mean that you refuse chip and signature cards? They are rare but refusal would be a breach of disability discrimination rules. to be honest with you, this has never arisen. ... although i find it difficult to imagine a disability where you can write a signature but are unable to tap in a PIN number.
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lawman

msg:4444501 | 3:29 am on Apr 24, 2012 (gmt 0) |
>>He has someone to pay for things and use his card etc for him I was trying to be funny responding to incrediBILL. My humor fell flat, as usual. Sorry, y'all carry on.
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incrediBILL

msg:4444534 | 6:21 am on Apr 24, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| What about Stephen Hawking? |
| He would just pay for it in an alternate universe.
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piatkow

msg:4444564 | 7:57 am on Apr 24, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Since when are requiring secure payment methods to avoid being defrauded considered discrimination? |
| @incrediBILL: since Her Majesty gave Royal Assent to the appropriate Act of Parliament. I was explicitly responding to a post about usage in the UK.
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