lucy24
msg:4417693 | 1:38 am on Feb 15, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Disgruntled CARDINALS? What on earth have they got to be disgruntled about?
I don't think you can prevent Cardinals from seeing "the vital stuff". It's in the job description. It would be like saying that all Cardinals are equal but some are more equal than others.
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Swanny007
msg:4418079 | 4:07 pm on Feb 15, 2012 (gmt 0) |
VatiLeaks dot com is pretty interesting. Not surprising though, I saw a documentary on the Vatican one time and it was disturbing... I don't know how anyone can have blind trust and faith in such a large organization, they're definitely looking out for themselves first...
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Marshall
msg:4418084 | 4:34 pm on Feb 15, 2012 (gmt 0) |
a) Any large organization, religious or otherwise, is going to have this problem, and
b) Proves again that absolute power corrupts absolutely. No insult intended to anyone's belief, but the Vatican is the longest running dictatorship, and probably the most secretive ever in existence. The difference now is that insiders have a way to anonymously dispense information.
Marshall
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rocknbil
msg:4418103 | 5:26 pm on Feb 15, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| ... how anyone can have blind trust and faith in such a large organization .... |
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LOL . . . isn't that the cornerstone? :-)
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Old_Honky
msg:4418225 | 1:33 am on Feb 16, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| a Cardinal's apparent certainty that the pope will be bumped off by November this year |
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Up to their old tricks again I see. There's nothing to worry about popes are like buses there is always another one coming along and who knows the next one might not be a morally questionable ex Hitler Youth Movement member who conspires to cover up child abuse allegations amongst the "celibate" priesthood.
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graeme_p
msg:4418282 | 8:59 am on Feb 16, 2012 (gmt 0) |
@rocknbil, theologically, I would argue that neither trust nor faith should be blind.
@Old_Honly, that is a gross distortion of the facts. The Catholic Church has got more media attention, but it sacks those who covered up child abuse - unlike most government agencies (e.g. Tony Blair made a politician who covered up child abuse Minister for Children - just one of MANY examples).
@Marshall, dictatorship? With no native population, do real armed forces, no real police?
@Swanny007, Vatileaks is not exactly a credible source. I particularly liked the story about the Vatican being in on the USA's cover up of UFO extra-terrestrial contact.
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