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Anonymous hackers face arrest
attacked businesses hostile to WikiLeaks
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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:31 pm on Feb 7, 2011 (gmt 0)

Cyberactivists warned of arrest

An international investigation into cyberactivists who attacked businesses hostile to WikiLeaks is likely to yield arrests of senior members of the group after they left clues to their real identities on Facebook and in other electronic communications, it is claimed.


Key Anonymous figures are fretting that they will soon face charges, which can bring sentences as long as 10 years, it is claimed.

Officials last month said they had arrested five suspected UK members of Anonymous in the UK while 40 court-authorised searches in the US were carried out, with few details.


Hope they enjoy prison.

[uk.finance.yahoo.com...]

 

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:33 pm on Feb 7, 2011 (gmt 0)

Not a smart move. Think that this was honey pot to garner more evidence?

Anonymous hackers attack US security firm HBGary

Over the weekend Aaron Barr, head of HBGary Federal, said he had discovered the names of its most senior figures.

The group retaliated overnight by breaking into the company's website and hijacking his Twitter account.


Anonymous claims that Barr was planning to give the names to the FBI, which has been helping investigate the group's recent attacks on financial companies.


Mr Barr's Twitter account was filled with a sequence of racial and sexual slurs, along with a string of personal details such as his mobile phone and social security numbers.


Classy folks, way to gain the moral high ground.
[bbc.co.uk...]

StoutFiles

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:56 pm on Feb 7, 2011 (gmt 0)

Mr Barr's Twitter account was filled with a sequence of racial and sexual slurs, along with a string of personal details such as his mobile phone and social security numbers.


They're killing any support WikiLeaks had with these immature acts. Oh well, hope they have a good time in prison!

bhonda

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 2:28 pm on Feb 7, 2011 (gmt 0)

I was wondering when this would resurface again. There was all that panic that the internet would come to a halt, that it was the end of the world as we knew it.

Then it all went quiet.

Glad that authorities are still working on it!

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 12:32 pm on Feb 8, 2011 (gmt 0)

I wonder why so much effort is going into investigating Anonymous, while none seems to be going into investigating the equally criminal DDOS attacks on Wikileaks.

koan

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 12:47 pm on Feb 8, 2011 (gmt 0)

I wonder why so much effort is going into investigating Anonymous, while none seems to be going into investigating the equally criminal DDOS attacks on Wikileaks.


The authorities aren't pursuing Anonymous out of a sense of justice or to serve the population, they're just acting for the government self interests. The government wants to know everything about the population, but god forbids we get to know something about the government. The old cliche "why worry if you have nothing to hide" goes only one way.

frontpage

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:36 pm on Feb 8, 2011 (gmt 0)

I wonder why so much effort is going into investigating Anonymous, while none seems to be going into investigating the equally criminal DDOS attacks on Wikileaks.


How can you investigate an alleged crime against a criminal enterprise.

That's like Italian police investigating a theft from Mafia headquarters of items the Mafia stole.

Wikileaks had its servers at Pirate Bay -- you know them -- the home of pirated software.

The reason why the FBI is investigating is because Anonymous and its supporters damaged regular citizens livelihoods, affected banking, commerce, and purposely tried to take down networks which people use to work on the internet.

I am really enjoying the fact that police are literally breaking down doors serving search warrants on Wikileak supporters who used LOIC.

Example:

6am, door busted down (NOT KIDDING), "FBI FBI FBI POLICE FBI GET YOUR ARMS UP AND DONT MOVE THEM. WALK DOWNSTAIRS RIGHT NOW. DO NOT MOVE YOUR HANDS." --- TWO *REAL* GUNS POINTED AT ME.

me in 1 cop car, gf in other car.

took 3.5 hrs, all electronic devices taken including 3 computers. said nearly nothing. finally left.


The FBI yesterday reminded the public that "facilitating or conducting a DDoS attack is illegal, punishable by up to 10 years in prison, as well as exposing participants to significant civil liability."

I sincerely hope no one here gets caught up in this dragnet.

[arstechnica.com...]

[edited by: frontpage at 1:43 pm (utc) on Feb 8, 2011]

Philosopher

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:41 pm on Feb 8, 2011 (gmt 0)

Also, WikiLeaks is not based in the US. The FBI, etc. are investigating attacks on business that are...based in the US where their jurisdiction lies.

No conspiracy here...just jurisdiction.

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 10:56 am on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

@frontpage, can you tell me what was criminal about Wikileaks? What law did they break? Leaking information can be a crime, distributing that leaked information is not (or a good many journalists would be in jail).

@Philospher, the DDOS attacks on Wikileaks were conducted, at least in part, from the US. Is it legal to DDOS foreign websites from a US base - i.e. is the US a safe haven for DDOS? Given that the investigation of Anonymous is now international, it is pretty certain that some police force that is investigating Anonymous should be investigating the attacks on WIkileaks too.

J_RaD

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:13 pm on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

these annon script kiddies have got this coming to them.

Anonymous is not Anonymous.

frontpage

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:29 pm on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

@graeme_p

I will let Obama's Attorney General answer you.

But in Washington, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said he has authorized "significant" actions related to a criminal investigation of WikiLeaks.

"National security of the United States has been put at risk," Holder said. "The lives of people who work for the American people have been put at risk. The American people themselves have been put at risk by these actions that I believe are arrogant, misguided and ultimately not helpful in any way. We are doing everything that we can."


And Obama's spokesman:

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says the cables detailing private conversations and unflattering assessments of world leaders were stolen and the President is decidedly not pleased.

"It's a serious crime first and foremost," he said.


So, we know that the present admin is above reproach or criticism. So good luck with that.

[edited by: frontpage at 1:33 pm (utc) on Feb 9, 2011]

StoutFiles

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:32 pm on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

Leaking information can be a crime, distributing that leaked information is not (or a good many journalists would be in jail).


Which is why WikiLeaks is still online today. However, governments are trying to prove that the company mined some of the data themselves.

Journalists can report on information but they can't do illegal acts to get it.

caribguy

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:37 pm on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

this? "First, they came for..." - ah, nevermind!

They are legion. Arresting these kids will only fuel the fire. Who is / are the puppetmaster(s)?

StoutFiles

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:47 pm on Feb 9, 2011 (gmt 0)

They are legion. Arresting these kids will only fuel the fire. Who is / are the puppetmaster(s)?


If someone breaks into your house, would you not call the police for help because that may fuel the fire?

koan

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 5:03 am on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

Firm hacked by ‘Anonymous’ plotted against WikiLeaks on bank’s behalf: report

The three firms, Palantir Technologies, HBGary Federal and Berico Technologies, planned to "disrupt" Salon.com columnist Glenn Greenwald's support of WikiLeaks, create a disinformation campaign to discredit the secrets outlet, sow discord among WikiLeaks volunteers, and use cyber attacks to target the website's infrastructure.


[rawstory.com...]

Classy folks...

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:55 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

Raw Story claims they are an 'alternative news nexus' with a long published history of positive Wikileaks and Anonymous stories.

Gee, I wonder why Raw Story would write a sympathetic story about Anonymous hacking a private citizen's home router, business server, Twitter account, and email server, etc...

Gosh, I don't understand.... Maybe Raw Story trying to rationalize criminal behavior by Anonymous requires them to villanize the victim.

You notice that the 'news' report by Raw Story fails to mention the stream of racist and homophobic comments used by Anonymous to deface the Twitter account and Corporate home page of HBGary?

[edited by: frontpage at 2:06 pm (utc) on Feb 10, 2011]

frontpage

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:57 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

Evidence Against 'Anonymous' Heads to Grand Jury


A grand jury will begin looking through mobile phones, computer hard drives, and other items seized by the FBI in connection with Anonymous, the cyber vigilantes accused of launching distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks on companies that had severed ties to WikiLeaks.

According to various reports, the federal grand jury in San Jose, California will examine the evidence on Thursday, February 10.

The items were seized during an FBI raid on January 27, during which five men were arrested in connection with the DDoS attacks on sites that had publicly withdrawn support to WikiLeaks such as Visa, MasterCard, Amazon, and PayPal.


[pcmag.com...]

frontpage

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 2:01 pm on Feb 10, 2011 (gmt 0)

Among the evidence seized by the FBI during multistate raids on Jan. 27 was data taken from an individual who controls one of Anonymous’s primary servers, identified by the organization only by his cyber-handle ‘Owen,’ Brown said.


Agents served a grand jury subpoena on a California man who goes by the screen name ‘Trivette,’ ordering him to appear before the panel tomorrow. It demands all information he has on how the December attacks were organized, including instructions to activists on how to download software that can overwhelm websites by inundating them with thousands of service requests a second.



[bloomberg.com...]

It will be funny to watch those who participated in Anonymous's DDOS get prosecuted. They believed that they could use LOIC and not get caught.

koan

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 11:31 pm on Feb 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Anonymous is bad. The other side is worse.

What is set forth in these proposals for Bank of America quite possibly constitutes serious crimes. Manufacturing and submitting fake documents with the intent they be published likely constitutes forgery and fraud. Threatening the careers of journalists and activists in order to force them to be silent is possibly extortion and, depending on the specific means to be used, constitutes other crimes as well. Attacking WikiLeaks' computer infrastructure in an attempt to compromise their sources undoubtedly violates numerous cyber laws.


[salon.com...]

StoutFiles

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 4:29 am on Feb 12, 2011 (gmt 0)


Anonymous is bad. The other side is worse.


Two wrongs don't make a right.

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 5:01 am on Feb 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

No, but two rights make an airplane.

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 7:21 am on Feb 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

@frontpage, a criminal investigation is not proof that a crime is committed. Even if a crime was committed in leaking the information, Wikileaks did not leak it, only received it. Finally, unless he US constitution has changed drastically, a presidential spokesman does not have the power to declare something is a crime.

The fact is that there is no evidence that Wikileaks has done anything criminal, and the DDOS attacks on them are undoubtedly criminal.

Anonymous committed a crime, but Anonymous is not Wikileaks.

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 8:22 am on Feb 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

Anonymous committed a crime, but Anonymous is not Wikileaks.

Exactly. This article is about the members of Anonymous.

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 9:05 am on Feb 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

@bhonda, I was replying to frontpage's claim that Wikileaks is criminal. The article is fine, frontpage is wrong.

I still want to know why people who carried out equally crominal DDOS attacks on Wikileaks are not being investigated.

frontpage

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 8:14 pm on Feb 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

Wikileak is hosted at Pirate Bay, Assange and the owners of Pirate Bay, Pirate Party, and Anonymous are all related.

Wikileaks is currently hosted by a Swedish ISP, PRQ, run by the founders of file-sharing search site The Pirate Bay


"The Pirate Party will under no circumstances give in to pressure," Troberg insisted. "If Wikileaks is attacked again, we will immediately offer them both server space and bandwidth."


source: [thinq.co.uk...]

The question is not about Assange posting the stolen classified information but aiding and abetting the US Army soldier in doing so.

February 15, 2011 - 6:39AM

The US government's legal hunt for Julian Assange will begin in a magistrates' court in Virginia today when its Attorney General seeks a disclosure order on Twitter to obtain the names, dates and locations of anyone using its services to communicate with WikiLeaks.



A court order was sent to Twitter on December 14 by the US Attorney's Office in Alexandria, Virginia, demanding details about the accounts of the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, and Private Bradley Manning, the army intelligence analyst suspected of supplying classified information.

The US is trying to build a conspiracy case that Mr Assange solicited leaks.

The other Twitter accounts known to have been targeted are those of the Icelandic MP Birgitta Jonsdottir, the Dutch hacker Rop Gonggrijp, and the US programmer Jacob Appelbaum. All have worked with WikiLeaks.


source: [smh.com.au...]

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 8:27 pm on Feb 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

Anonymous has leaked another set of emails from security firm HBGary, with revenge the chief motivation.

This time, the hacker group used Swedish website The Pirate Bay as its platform to leak the data in the form of a torrent archive. The 27,606 HBGary emails come from the total 71,802 that Anonymous had at its disposal.


Anonymous added that it will fight against those firms which work against the likes of WikiLeaks.


source: [itpro.co.uk...]

J_RaD

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 11:48 pm on Feb 14, 2011 (gmt 0)

Anonymous needs to find a job.

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 3:49 am on Feb 15, 2011 (gmt 0)

@frontpage, I assume that you are willing to be held responsible for everything your web host does? By your logic the police should refuse to investigate any crime against a Linux user who users ReisferFS!

Assange has not been found guilty of anything. Although Assange is the founder of Wikileaks, it is an organisation that now involves many other people, and it is clear that the vast majority of what it does is legitimate. By your logic, if a newspaper editor conspired to get secret information, the police should standby and let a mob attack the newspaper.

What exactly is your problem with the Pirate Party? It is a legitimate political party with seats in the European Parliament.

I have this quaint old-fashioned belief in fair trials and the rule of law. I am sorry that many people do not share it.

[edited by: lawman at 8:23 am (utc) on Feb 15, 2011]

koan

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 8:12 am on Feb 15, 2011 (gmt 0)

Wikileak is hosted at Pirate Bay, Assange and the owners of Pirate Bay, Pirate Party, and Anonymous are all related.


Wikileaks was forced to be hosted by Pirate Bay in the end because of US pressure to other web hosts and their DOS attacks. No one else wanted to deal with Wikileaks except for hard core "free speech" activists. To call them "related" after pushing them in one of the few places left that would host them is ridiculous and disingenuous, once again.

frontpage

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Msg#: 4263571 posted 1:44 pm on Feb 15, 2011 (gmt 0)

Wikileaks was forced to be hosted by Pirate Bay in the end because of US pressure to other web hosts and their DOS attacks.


Completely factually wrong.

Wikileaks via Assauge signed a hosting contract with Pirate Bay before the Diplomatic cables were released.

PRQ had worked with WikiLeaks since 2008, but always through a Swedish middleman instead of direct contacts.


The first of 76,000 Afghan Diary reports were first posted by Wikileaks on 25 July 2010 and Wikileaks was already hosted at Pirate Bay.

The Diplomatic Cables were first released by Wikileaks on 28 November 2010.

The same Pirate Bay that's leadership is convicted of breaking the law and hit with a $6 million fine for piracy.

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