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Online Predator Bill Becomes Law
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msg:3766320
 6:14 pm on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Online Predator Bill Becomes Law [blogs.pcworld.com]
President Bush signed into law two bills that will make it much harder for child molesters to lurk with anonymity on the Web, especially at social networking sites.
The new law, called the "Keeping the Internet Devoid of Sexual Predators Act of 2008" or the "KIDS Act of 2008," requires registered sex offenders to provide "Internet identifiers", including e-mail addresses, to state sex offender registries.

 

blaze




msg:3766533
 10:11 pm on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

You know, anyone who is around children should be forced to wear a wireless camera on their head to help protect children more.

Can you imagine how much child abuse that would cut down on?

Any politician who is against this kind of idea is clearly a friend of child predators, and in fact, is probably a child predator him or herself.

AhmedF




msg:3766559
 10:30 pm on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

You know, anyone who is around children should be forced to wear a wireless camera on their head to help protect children more.

Can you imagine how much child abuse that would cut down on?

Any politician who is against this kind of idea is clearly a friend of child predators, and in fact, is probably a child predator him or herself.

Don't forget that if you don't donate to the Police Anti-Pedophile Drive, you must be one too.

IanKelley




msg:3766577
 10:48 pm on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

From whitehouse.gov:

sex offenders to provide Internet identifiers, including e-mail addresses, to State sex offender registries; and tasks the Justice Department to establish and maintain a system that allows social networking websites to compare Internet identifiers of its users with those provided to the National Sex Offender Registry;

So basically it does nothing. In 2008 I find it hard to believe that everyone involved is so tech ignorant that the ease of getting a new email address never came up.

What a strange publicity stunt?

Leosghost




msg:3766585
 10:53 pm on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

and those who organise ,promote and televise child "pageants" are what ?
and what does that make their parents ?..kiddypiimpss would strike me as an appropriate word ?
pedophiles hide in many places ..but most often in churches ( of all religions ) , youth organisations ,and child pageants and the like ..

the hypocrisy behind this law saves no child ..
and like the anti spam laws wre not intended to cut spam is probably not intended to do so ..

the intention of this is .IMO.just to be another sound bite and then to allow business as usual on all of the "cindy 12 year old model" sites hosted in the US with all of the ( paraphrased) "all of our models , despite appearances are really over 18 years old" etc etc ..

and search engines ( yes looking at you google ) which accept ads for kiidypron ( even when they later drop them ..they above all people had the means to filter the ads at the outset ..but didn't in the name of traffic and profit )..and then censure sites with beach scenes that have topless bathers in the name of "safe search"..

want to stop kiidypron on the net ..google ? ms nd Y have the technology now ..they could crunch their index's in 24 hours for all associated words in all languages and just dump all pages from the indexes after turning all the hosting server IP's over to the FBI ..they dont ..because that would really rock some boats ..

koan




msg:3766620
 11:15 pm on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Any politician who is against this kind of idea is clearly a friend of child predators, and in fact, is probably a child predator him or herself.

In fact, people shouldn't be allowed to say "child", they should say "developing adult".

Anyone who is against this idea is clearly a perverted child molester.

rj87uk




msg:3766651
 11:33 pm on Oct 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Could they not come up with a better way of tracking them like for example make them HAVE to use a certain IP address all the time. I don't know maybe track where they live and then make them only have access to one IP which they can monitor?

No its not that secure either, a drive around looking for free net access etc however I think that would be a lot better than tracking an mmail address? No?

vincevincevince




msg:3766675
 12:22 am on Oct 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

If you give someone an email address without charging and establishing a financial trail, you are aiding and abetting online predators. Those who defend Y!, Hotmail and Gmail being free are clearly perverted child molesters.

I like IP limits more than email limits. Fixed IP for all offenders and hefty penalty if found using any other connection.

thecoalman




msg:3766734
 3:31 am on Oct 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

As far as the law goes it's just another notch in the belt of the politician who sponsored it so he/she proclaim I'm the protector of children when it really does nothing to address the issue. IMO actually does more harm than good as it may give parents a false sense of security when the danger is still very real.

Having said that according to one person in this Frontline piece nearly all instances where minors have had real contact with these types of people the contact was initiated by the minor. e.g. they weren't tricked or duped into doing anything:

[pbs.org...]

pedophiles hide in many places ..but most often in churches ( of all religions ) , youth organisations ,and child pageants and the like ..

A majority is usually a close family member or a close acquaintance of the family.

tangor




msg:3766791
 5:43 am on Oct 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

The only way I know to keep kid preds off the net is to whack off their fingers so they can't type. Appears we can't whack off the offending member...or keep them behind bars, or deal with them in a final fashion.

These bozos continue to legislate some of the strangest non-enforcable laws just so they can add large penalties, and think they did something good.

I don't condone vigilante justice, but with this particular breed of vermin I'm not sure what really works.

Late night. Have had it happen to little folks I love(d) and I'm not, perhaps, the best person to ask "how do we deal with this?"

malcolmcroucher




msg:3766842
 7:52 am on Oct 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

You know, anyone who is around children should be forced to wear a wireless camera on their head to help protect children more.

In theory thats everyone over 25 , as chances are most people have children no matter what their age. a 70 year old can have a 35 year old child ? tedious but true

jecasc




msg:3766918
 9:39 am on Oct 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Another law with the sole purpose of giving politicians the possibility to say: "We passed a law." when asked by a talkshow host what he has done against a perceived problem. Passing a law like this does not cost much and is a cheap way of pretending to have done something.

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