timster

msg:3747931 | 3:16 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
That's an odd list, kind of stodgy. It doesn't even include that company that makes the iPhone. Millard Brown has had Google as the #1 brand for more than a year now.
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skipfactor

msg:3747932 | 3:17 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Ten years to the global top ten. Wonder if that was in their first business plan?
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SEOMike

msg:3747954 | 3:26 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
| The two biggest movers of the year included Google, which jumped 10 spots to number 10 on the list, and Apple, which jumped nine spots to 24. |
| There's your iPhone maker...
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wyweb

msg:3747998 | 3:58 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
I would have guessed they were already there.
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LifeinAsia

msg:3748007 | 4:11 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Remember that this is a *world* top 10 list. From what I have seen, Apple has not been a very strong brand in a lot of countries outside the U.S. It has a strong niche, but not a strong brand. It's (apparently) been changing recently, but they still have a little further to go. Fourteen spots, in fact. :)
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maximillianos

msg:3748050 | 4:52 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Sad that none of the big three US automakers are in the top ten. I would have expected General Motors to be there since they have a very strong global sales record. Procter & Gamble is also a huge global brand I would have expected to see. It is interesting to see 8/10 are US companies... [edited by: maximillianos at 4:55 pm (utc) on Sep. 19, 2008]
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StoutFiles

msg:3748052 | 4:52 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
I'm surprised IBM is #2.
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AlienDev211

msg:3748062 | 4:59 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
It hurts to be happy for Google. I would love to hate them, and I hate to love them. As much as they make me angry, google it. I use so many of their products, because they are good. I just hate trying to work with them for rankings and AdWords stuff. Congrats Google!
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httpwebwitch

msg:3748068 | 5:04 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
primary source: Interbrand top brands 2008 [interbrand.com] Companies are ranked by "brand value". And Google's brand is valued at over 25 billion. How does one measure that? What makes Google's brand worth $25,590,000,000, while VISA's brand (#100 on the list) is worth a measly $3,338,000,000? Their methodology is explained here [interbrand.com]... it's not about recognizability; the brand's value is measured by how much coin is exchanged for products bearing or representing the brand, temprered by some strict criteria. For instance, WalMart doesn't make the list because while they do business internationally, they don't do it under the WalMart brand. Fascinating data pron.
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httpwebwitch

msg:3748073 | 5:11 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
also interesting to note new arrivals to the top 100: Blackberry (at #73), Ferrari, Armani, FedEx, VISA, Mariott, H&M.
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nickreynolds

msg:3748075 | 5:13 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
What I'd be interested in is the top 10 brands by recognizability not by $$$$$
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rogerd

msg:3748077 | 5:16 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
The methodology produces some odd top brands, like Oracle at #23. Few outside corporate geekdom would have a clue as to what Oracle does, much less name an Oracle product.
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hutcheson

msg:3748079 | 5:23 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
I got the impression that the calculation was something like, how much less would customers pay for this tooth-dissolving high-caloric no-nutrition syrup if it didn't say "Coca cola" on the package? Or, similarly, how much less would businesses pay for this huge rack of mostly-commodity integrated circuits and wires if it didn't say "IBM" on it? A GM four-wheeling planet-burner wrapped in odd-shaped sheet metal doesn't command a price premium over other similar-functioned products. The COMPANY is big, but its brand doesn't contribute much to the bottom line--unlike Toyota, whose rolling stock command a price higher than comparably-sized competitive cars. Conversely, Apple's brand is strong -- 50% or more of its retail price tag may be attributable to the brand name. But IBM's volume, even with a smaller brand multiplier, pushes it higher on the list. And Microsoft, for all its vaunted advertising, gets most of its business by technical tie-ins (often involving illegally suppressing competition) not because anyone would, given a free choice, actually pay anything at all for its trash. Caveat: I'm no marketing expert, and I may have missed the whole point.
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grelmar

msg:3748131 | 6:28 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
My main day gig is with an asset remarketing outfit. This list strikes me as dead on, based on what I've seen. In North Am, Europe, Japan - the brands aren't as important as the specs. If we're shipping to Africa, South America, the Middle East, and most of Asia, then brand is everything - it's the easiest way for the end customers to determine a base level of quality. Used IBM hardware commands an easy 20% premium over similarly specced machines when we sell to those regions. Intel's multiplier is even stronger - to the point where we almost can't unload other chipsets. Unless it's inside an IBM case. Interesting study.
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johnnie

msg:3748169 | 7:18 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Where's nintendo?
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pageoneresults

msg:3748190 | 7:31 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
| I would have guessed they were already there. |
| Me too! And, a bit higher up on the list.
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timster

msg:3748246 | 8:46 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Here's the Millard Brown list I'd seen a while ago, also a list of global brands. This list just made a lot more sense to me. [millwardbrown.com ] Nick, here's a list of most recognized brands: [rtoonline.com ]
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maximillianos

msg:3748299 | 10:32 pm on Sep 19, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Very odd that the world's largest automaker, GM, is not in the top 100.
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Alcoholico

msg:3748341 | 12:14 am on Sep 20, 2008 (gmt 0) |
That's because GM is not a brand per se, Vauxhall, Opel or Chevrolet are.
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cdcaveman

msg:3748676 | 7:13 pm on Sep 20, 2008 (gmt 0) |
as in most companies, they seem to have a life. Google is in the stage of expanding and growth. i would love to see when they take this to its extremity with crap thinclient attempts like chrome. the money over there is flowing like a river. there is so much of it right now they aren't using it properly i'm sure. just a general assumption. but take a look at there more recent projects! i am not a hater for sure. just seems like we are children of google these days. just in hopes to please our master so he will grant us traffic.
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m0thman

msg:3748982 | 11:33 am on Sep 21, 2008 (gmt 0) |
McDonalds, Coca Cola and Disney. Getting ready to hurl already.
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IanTurner

msg:3750552 | 4:11 pm on Sep 23, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Who are GE?
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engine

msg:3750561 | 4:20 pm on Sep 23, 2008 (gmt 0) |
General Electric
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cdcaveman

msg:3750582 | 4:45 pm on Sep 23, 2008 (gmt 0) |
wow! haha what about big blue
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LifeinAsia

msg:3750583 | 4:51 pm on Sep 23, 2008 (gmt 0) |
| wow! haha what about big blue |
| #2
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