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Google Street View Not Welcome in North Oaks, Minnesota
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Msg#: 3664997 posted 4:54 pm on Jun 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

The St. Paul suburb with private roads may be the first U.S. city to ask that street images be removed.

The city of 4,500 residents has demanded that Google Maps remove images of North Oaks homes from the website's Street View feature, where any Internet user can glimpse a home from the nearest road.

North Oaks' unique situation, in which the roads are privately owned by the residents and the city enforces a trespassing ordinance, may have made it the first city in the country to request that the online search engine remove images from Google Maps.

Google Street View Not Welcome in North Oaks, Minnesota [startribune.com]

 

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 3:24 am on Jun 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

These residents should just get over it

So you're saying you wouldn't mind if google came on you private posted land without your permission? The pictures are really not the issue, that they were there in the first place is.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 3:56 am on Jun 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Well who owns the street? If I lived there do I own the street near my house? Is it split between the people on my road? How does that even work?

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 4:09 am on Jun 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Well who owns the street?

From the City of North Oaks website...

Because residents' properties extend to halfway across the road, all residential roads in the City are private and for the use of North Oaks residents and their invited guests only.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 7:44 am on Jun 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Most likely the law can't even go in there unless they were invited, had a warrant or had a really good reason. They wouldn't be able to just drive in and look around.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 1:57 am on Jun 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Maybe Google needs to chill on the conquest to archive every single bit of data on the planet and get back to roots of respect.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 2:58 am on Jun 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think Google street program is just creepy. I know people can get pictures of your house by driving down the street, but somehow this just feels wrong. However I can think of a couple of instances where people wouldn't want this. What if your kids are playing in the front yard when the Google camera crew rolls by like the person above whose mother was gardening. Would you really want pictures of your kids on the net in front of your house with the address proudly displayed for any predators to look up. If anyone disagrees with me on that point they are probably not parents of small children. I know predators can find other ways to stalk, but why make it easy for them.

The mapping from space doesn't seem too invasive, but the street shots of the front of your house do seem a bit more problematic for the one of the reasons I cited above

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 8:14 am on Jun 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Most likely the law can't even go in there unless they were invited, had a warrant or had a really good reason. They wouldn't be able to just drive in and look around.

This would depend on how the town's "constitution" or by-laws read. Though the residents own half-way into the street, their bylaws may, and probably do, allow for normal governmental operations such as police patrols, street cleaning and so on. I would assume they pay higher taxes than most and, in essence, are paying for a gated/private type community while maintaining the status and rights of a municipality such as being able to have an actual police force rather than a private security company.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 7:49 pm on Jun 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

Marshall i was just giving an example, I'm sure any community like that would have an agreement with law enforcement. The point I was trying to make is if they wanted to keep the cops out they probably could. I know if it was real private community like a gated one they could.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 8:10 pm on Jun 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

allow for normal governmental operations such as police patrols, street cleaning

street mapping, and so on. When Google labels the houses as to who lives there, then we'll talk.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 3:21 am on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

Stoutfiles, check the first word in your quote.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 3:39 am on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

street view is not in keeping with Google's way of doing things. They're into smart algos that scale, in theory to infinity. For instance:
* send out crawlers and index everything online;
* Develop a flexible system for delivering relevant ads for any conceivable type of material;
* use a satellite to take pictures of every square inch of land.

this is not in keeping with a bunch of guys driving around corner-to-corner across the country, eating burgers and taking pictures. Compared to the elegance and beauty of their other innovations it seems messy and, well, twentieth century.
They have a different feature with maps, where people can post photos of the area themselves. These are usually professional, travel-brochure type photos, the difference being that it's user driven. That feature, to my mind, is more in keeping with how Google does things.

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Msg#: 3664997 posted 12:37 pm on Jun 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is there advance notice when Google drives around to take these pictures? I'd like to put up a 10 foot sign in my front yard that says 'Google sucks'. They can then do whatever they want with the pics of my house.

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