| 1:35 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
cellular cranial rectalitis
| 2:50 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Because they can, up North they do the same, heres one that always makes me wonder, 60mph zone going through a small village drops to 40mph for about 500 yards, next road sign is a round circle with black line diagonally through it telling them its back to 60mph BUT no, we continue along at 40mph, maybe they don't know what the sign meant?
Here in the UK we should have a Minimum speed too, it would save many lives as people do to take chances to get past, no matter what.
| 2:57 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
| 2:59 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I suppose they do it because they can get away with it. In other words, the speed limit is not enforced by the powers that be.
| 4:50 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Because they are in a hurry?
| 4:59 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Having driven a commercial truck for 15 years I can flat out that you really have no idea how many idiots there are on the road until you drive a truck, this doesn't exclude other truck drivers either. There's just as many idiots driving them. My personal pet peeves:
1. Driving in the passing lane the same speed as the car next to you when there is clear and open highway. We have a law against this here in my State in the U.S. but it's never enforced.
2. Driving the speed limit on a two lane road with tailgater, getting passed by tailgater in a passing zone, then they SLOW down to a speed less than what you were going. This usually occurs right before a hill where you would generally speed up little to get some momentum going.
3. Passing on the right, remember folks there's a significant blind spot on the right side of a large commercial truck. Pass on left side... good. Pass on right side and you may just meet the grim reaper early.
4. People that slow down to merge on on ramp, granted this may be required in some cases but under most circumstances you should be getting up to the speed of the traffic you are merging with. I've even saw one guy completely stop and turn around to see if the traffic was clear. If you can't drive in highway traffic using only your mirrors you don't belong on the highway.
5. People that cannot decide how fast they want to go, if you're on the highway find your speed and stick with it. Nothing more annoying than being passed then passing the same car out 50 times when your speed has remained constant.
6. People weaving in and out of traffic on a local 4 lane road with lights, what's interesting about this they usually never get anywhere. Generally you catch up to them the next light, and/or they a stopped at the next one down the line. Not worth it to save 1 minute on a 30 minute trip.
I'm sure there are others but my blood pressure is going up just thinking about it. Be safe and use your common sense.
[edited by: thecoalman at 5:00 pm (utc) on Jan. 10, 2008]
| 5:00 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Still on the subject of driving habits ...
"It is just absolutely obscene that anyone should try to justify a situation where it is possible to have some drink and drive - it is dangerous to members of the family and members of the public."
I don't do drink driving and I am not trying to justify it but I tend to agree wth the cop. Let's look at the following scenario. A couple live alone in an isolated house and one of them takes seriously ill or suffers an injury causing heavy blood loss. There is no one else in the house or nearby and the telephone lines are down. If the injured person is not taken to hospital they will probably die. The other person has had three or four glasses of wine.
Should they obey the law and let their spouse die? What would the public and their family think of them if they did?
| 5:02 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
If I was in that situation the spouse is getting to the hospital or the nearest place I can get help. Family first in my book and that's under any circumstances.
| 9:51 pm on Jan 10, 2008 (gmt 0)|
There should be snipers set up along the motorways..picking off anyone doing the following -
- driving slower than 50mph (unless its a tornado, or raining, or foggy etc..exceptional circumstances).
- hogging the middle lane when theres no-one else about
- people who dont indicate
- people who cut others up..especially when theres no signal
- anyone in a french car :p
That'll help clear the road of all the nutters
| 6:21 pm on Jan 11, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Dumbest of all: tailgating a huge truck. Car drivers don't understand that semi's block wind completely so stopping a car behind the truck takes far longer.
If you're within 20 feet of a truck at highway speeds, you effectively have no brakes. Back way off!
| 7:08 pm on Jan 11, 2008 (gmt 0)|
That really has more to do with reaction times, by the time you realize you need to brake and your foot gets to the brake you'll already be into the back of any vehicle if your traveling that close. Doesn't just apply to following trucks and you don't have to be going fast either.
You should be at least 3 seconds behind the car ahead of you. When the car in front of you passess a sign on the the side of the road it should take you at least 3 seconds to reach that point.
| 7:46 pm on Jan 11, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I believe the current rule in our state on drivers tests is one second behind for every 10 MPH. Used to be 1 car length per 10 mph.
But it is much harder to stop when you're behind a huge truck which blocks the wind than say a tiny minicooper or motorcycle.
Only reason more tailenders don't die is that some fully loaded trucks take a long distance to stop.
| 8:23 pm on Jan 11, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Drivers get excited and drive much faster when its really pissing down.
Sometimes they even do this on a rare occassions when its snowing. They are all excited - cant blame them really.
Now, I dont mind speeding sometimes in a good car, with good visability, on a good surface...and im concentrating hard, taking it all seriously. Thinking.
But I get old ladies flying by me in really bad conditions. Theyve got more guts than me. That or they have no f...ing idea what they are doing...
| 8:38 pm on Jan 11, 2008 (gmt 0)|
What about SUV idiots zipping and weaving at 80 mph in ice and snow? (while I'm crawling at 30)
You know what they're thinking: "I paid $40k for this gas guzzler and -- for this one day a year -- I'm getting my money's worth!"
After every bad ice storm highways are littered with wrecked SUVs who didn't realize they aren't better than regular cars on icy roads.
| 9:30 pm on Jan 11, 2008 (gmt 0)|
But, but, but jsinger! I HAVE 4 WHEEL DRIVE!
(I come from Maine. See it all the time too)
| 9:22 am on Jan 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|When the car in front of you passess a sign on the the side of the road it should take you at least 3 seconds to reach that point. |
That brings me to another of my pet hates. I honestly do leave an adequate space between me and the vehicle in front. What really pisses me off is when some half wit overtakes me and settles in the gap between us then I have to slow down.
With a handle like that you should be from Scotland, not Maine. :)
| 12:12 pm on Jan 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
There should be snipers set up along the motorways - A touch extreme.
Well I dont think the police should prosecute in thr Scottish scenario it was after all a matter of life and death.
| 12:25 pm on Jan 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
You've got me started!
I can name quote a few annoyances (I'll stop at these two):-
Middle lane drivers too scared to pull in, some too frightened to go above 50MPH on a 70MPH road.
Middle lane drivers that have no idea where they are on the road, same speed issues as above.
If they don't pull over, everyone is forced into the outside lane to overtake, and bunching up, raising the liklihood of an accident.
The UK roads are too crowded for these drivers. Culling is going too far, but, if you're caught doing this more than three times, with nothing on the inside lane, they should be sent for re-training, at their expense.
I agree with the OP, 30MPH zones are 30 for a reason. Now, please move out of the way when it's 50MPH and more!
Now, I'll go take a chill pill! :)
| 12:40 pm on Jan 12, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Well I dont think the police should prosecute in thr Scottish scenario it was after all a matter of life and death. |
Absolutely! However the guy who made the advert doesn't think so with his comments about it being "absolutely obscene to try to justify it". As a advetrising executive he is probably just seeking publicity but I note that he also said that any of his employees caught DUI would be sacked. I hope he has that in his contacts of employment. I think he may be on a sticky wicket for wrongful dismissal otherwise.
| 2:08 am on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|That brings me to another of my pet hates. I honestly do leave an adequate space between me and the vehicle in front. What really pisses me off is when some half wit overtakes me and settles in the gap between us then I have to slow down. |
I got in accident because of that, I was diving near Philadelphia on the lower end of what's called the Notheast Extension of the Turnpike in rush hour. If anyone is familiar with this road they'll know it's brutal. I mean strap your helmet on and hold onto the steering wheel :P It's one of the original highways built in the US modeled after the autobahn and has huge long stretches. Only trouble is there is the left shoulder is gurdrail seperating the opposing traffic and the right shoulder usually isn't much more than half a car width so there is absolutely no where to go except straight.
Anyhow it was bumper to bumper flying along at 75 down to 35 up to 85, really no choice it how you drove. I'm in the passing lane and some nitwit passes me on the left and sneaks into a already less than safe spot. Of course traffic decides to come to a complete stop at that time, was the freakiest moment I ever had in car. Went from doing about 80 to 0. We had a small pile up, nothing major. No cops or tow trucks needed but at least 5 or 6 of us all hit each other. It would have been close except for the guy jumping in front of me, never had chance to give myself some space.
| 5:58 pm on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
30% of fatal accidents are caused by drivers who are over the "safe" alcohol limit. 70% are caused by drivers who are stone cold sober.
That tells me that it's the sober drivers who are the big problem.
Bad driving kills, not speed, and not alcohol. These are just things to blame to avoid the truth that nobody wants to face, most people don't drive properly.
| 6:49 pm on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Let's look at the following scenario. A couple live alone in an isolated house and one of them takes seriously ill or suffers an injury causing heavy blood loss. There is no one else in the house or nearby and the telephone lines are down. If the injured person is not taken to hospital they will probably die. The other person has had three or four glasses of wine. |
If you live in such a situation, what on earth are you doing getting too drunk to render safe and effective assistance?
|30% of fatal accidents are caused by drivers who are over the "safe" alcohol limit. 70% are caused by drivers who are stone cold sober. |
That tells me that it's the sober drivers who are the big problem.
Only true if, say. 50% of all drivers are drunk. If 1% are drunk and they are causing 30% of the fatalities, then being drunk is far far more dangerous.
| 8:12 pm on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|If you live in such a situation, what on earth are you doing getting too drunk to render safe and effective assistance? |
Are you serious?
| 8:24 pm on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)|
| 7:36 am on Jan 14, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I suspect she want planning on having the accident therefore a few glasses of wine wouldnt really matter.
Then the fickle finger of fate poked them in the eye.....
| 6:45 pm on Jan 14, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|Only true if, say. 50% of all drivers are drunk. If 1% are drunk and they are causing 30% of the fatalities, then being drunk is far far more dangerous. |
There is a distinction between being Drunk (i.e. weaving all over the road and out of control)and being sightly over the limit so that your reaction times are impaired slightly.
What ever percentage may have imbibed, it is still true that sober drivers are causing more accidents.
I'm not advocating drinking and driving I haven't done it myself since the days when it was not illegal and we weren't aware that there was a problem. I was just pointing out that the drink drivers are the wrong target. It doesn't make sense to spend most of your advertising budget trying to reduce 30% of the problem while the other 70% carries on regardless. Where is the shock advertising about bad drivers? There isn't any!
The truth is that we have an epidemic of death and injury caused by motor vehicles being driven badly. It is a far worse killer than the terrorism that excites our media. UK government (of all persuasions ) has never had the guts to start limiting the use of cars to people who are intelligent enough to use them carefully, so they attack easy targets like drink drivers and people who exceed the speed limit. This is half-hearted, ineffective nonsense.
They should be making the driving test tougher, include motorway experience and night driving, and increase the age at which a driving licence can be issued to 25. (Most accidents are caused by young men).
Then everyone should have to re-test every 5 years with people over 60 re-testing every 2 years and over 70's annually.
| 8:27 pm on Jan 14, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Good post Oldhonky.
[rant]It's not considered PC to be anything other than 100% vociferously against driving while over the limit. This resulted after a re-education that took place during the 70s and 80s during which people driving while over the limit were portrayed as being pariahs and perhaps rightly so.
Of course people who are drunk are much more likely to cause serious and fatal accidents. There are also instances when people who are blameless but a wee bit over the limit get involved in accidents.
I don't have the stats but I would think that people who drive at excess speeds are much more likely to cause an accident than someone who is marginally over the DD limit. People who use mobile phones while driving will be in the same category. If someone gets caught doing 55mph in a 30 limit they are often perceived to be no more than naughty. The same applies to anyone who gets done for using a mobile without a hands free kit - just unlucky eh?
Each year at the festive period there is a campaign to try to catch people who are over the limit. That's fine but can we please also have a concentrated campaign to catch people who drive like lunatics? Can we have another to catch those who are using mobiles while driving?
Almost every time I go out in my car I see incidences of bad and often downright dangerous driving. Most of the people who do this do it while sober and they do it safe in the knowledge that they are extremely unlikely to get caught, so they will continue to do it. The sad thing about this is that in my experience they would be the easiest to catch. If there were more traffic cops out there in unmarked cars actually stopping and booking the people who were driving carelessly and dangerously then the roads would be made much safer overnight.[/rant]
| 2:03 am on Jan 15, 2008 (gmt 0)|
The solution to all your road habit disgust is to live in Kuala Lumpur or somewhere similar for a year or so. When you return home, even what formerly distressed you greatly will seem to be a pleasing interlude of safe predictable road use.
Before I came out here I didn't slow down look both ways before crossing at a green traffic light.
| 2:43 am on Jan 15, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Annoying California drivers
Seems like everyone in California drives with a cell phone glued to their ear. Not an exagerration, they're everywhere. These are the ones driving too slow and being very annoying.
On the positive side
I drove through Vermont and it was an astonishingly pleasant drive. Everytime I came up behind a driver they pulled to the right and let me by. Consistently!
Back on the negative side
Once I got into Massachussets it was a different story. Cars driving beside each other and not letting others pass, and I had to CONSISTENTLY flash my high beams AND honk my horn before these drivers got the message and scooted to let me by.
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