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PetroChina is now the most valuable company in the world
It is the first trillion dollar company!
derekwong28

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Msg#: 3497523 posted 9:30 am on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

PetroChina has just become the most valuable company in world. It is now the first ever company to worth a trillion dollars! It is now worth more than twice that of Exxon, the second most valuable company in the world.

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To see how stunning this all is, PetroChina is now worth more than the GDP of Russsia. It is worth more than the entire whole Russian stock market!

Now in fact Chinese companies make up 5 slots of the 10 most valuable companies in the world, compared to only 3 for the US.

China Mobile, third most valuable and the most valuable telecommunications company in the world
ICBC - 4th most valuable and the most valuable bank in the world

China has has the most valuable insurance and airline companies in the world. Alibaba had a stunning IPO debut today and nobody is betting that it will not overtake Google in a short period of time.
By the way that its crazy stockmarket is behaving, soon it will almost be a complete whitewash of the top 20 companies in the world!

Just a few years ago, who in their right mind would have thought that China would have the most valubale companies by 2007? The Chinese really do believe that they are about to dominate world commerce. Of course it is a gigantic bubble, even worse that that of the Nasdaq. I just hope that it will not end in complete misery for millions of people.

 

King_Fisher

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Msg#: 3497523 posted 9:53 am on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think I will start taking lessons in Mandarin and Cantonese!...KF

draggar

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Msg#: 3497523 posted 10:18 am on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Maybe Joss Whedon had a few things right in the series 'Firefly' (and movie, Serenity).

Everyone spoke English and Chinese perfectly, and mixed the two (you could tell something interesting was being said when they spoke Chinese in the show). The culture was a hybrid eastern / western.

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Msg#: 3497523 posted 1:35 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

this is not based on sales or profits but rather on market capitalization.
it should be noted that the government still holds 7/8's of the stock in petrochina so there is likely a significant shortage of supply in the market and that puts tremendous upward pressure on stock prices.
compounding this artificial price inflation is the high rate of savings in china which makes large amounts of cash available for investment which puts further pressure on stock prices from the demand side.

not to mention, having the oil monopoly in china will soon make the rockefellers look like paupers.

derekwong28

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Msg#: 3497523 posted 10:04 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

The big problem is that we have an extremely irrationally exuberant stock market in China. Its stockmarket (A shares) is completely closed to outisders, and that the majoritry of those trading in stocks are private individuals rather than funds. The government tried to clamp down on it serveral times without success, the most notable time was early this year when it caused a mini-crash in stockmarkets around the world. Then, the index was 3000 but it is now over 6000.

What we have got is a very similar situation to Japan in the 80s before it busted. But Japan is an affluent country which could "afford" such a bust. Morover, it played out slowly throughout a large number of years. However in China, if a crash occured, it would probably be sudden and cataclysmic. In order to rescue its economy, it may have to suddenly withdraw its huge currency reservers around the world. This wil have a very damaging effect on the world economy as interest rates would rise suddenly everywhere and that commodity prices would collapse. So basically we have got an extremely dangerous situation there.

Rugles

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Msg#: 3497523 posted 10:06 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

ya, it is an artificial value

wait for 5 years then check it out

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