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It's not that I'm old
Your music really does suck

 8:21 pm on Mar 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

It seems to have changed for me about the year 2000 or so.

Am I missing something? I thought I could like John Mayer. I bought Continuum, but gave it away because it is just too perfect. It needs some texture to it, some soul. Add a dash of Tracy Chapman maybe.

The only fairly recent popular song that I liked was Bad Day by Daniel Powter.

So, am I getting old or is popular music really just not so good right now?

Question #2: Who likes to listen to Justin Timberlake?



 9:06 pm on Mar 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

Popular music is for the mindless unwashed masses. Don't know why I listen to it.


 9:13 pm on Mar 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

You had me when you mentioned Tracy Chapman ;) but.. I'm liking Jamie Cullum et al just now - defintely not JT, can't stand him

Popular Music for me is probably better now that it was in 2000 - I hated it then ;)

[edited by: SuzyUK at 9:14 pm (utc) on Mar. 12, 2007]


 12:13 am on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

My favorite music to listen to is classic rock and blues. As far as post 2000 music, I enjoy listening to Norah Jones.


 12:02 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

post-2000 i've seen well over 100 live shows.
most by artists not signed to major labels or heard on corporate radio.
in the recent past i've seen ralph stanley and i've seen lady sov - so it's not that i'm old, but i've been doing it since the the 70's, so...

somewhere in your city or on the web you can find a college, independent, public and/or listener-sponsored radio station that plays different types of music at different times of the day instead pumping a formula through a computer into your ears 24/7/365.
a place where there is a dj and the dj is actually a music lover and selector and not just a radio personality.

when you hear something that turns you on - find the artist's myspace page (every musician or band has to have one now) and check out the artists listed as influences.

support listener sponsored radio.
buy directly from your preferred artists if possible.
in other words, support good music in a way that most directly impacts the provider.


 1:57 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

bah! There hasn't been a decent song written or sung since July 12, 1967!

Music? Noise is more like it, albeit a bit generous!


 1:59 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Irish Independent Speedfolk


 3:29 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

There hasn't been a decent song written or sung since July 12, 1967

i thought the music died February 3, 1959.
what happened to all the decent songs on July 12, 1967?
did they stop singing them?
which ones were they?
it's coming up on the 40th anniversary and i'd like to pick up some copies on vinyl while i still can...


 9:04 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

>>>bah! There hasn't been a decent song written or sung since July 12, 1967!

That is crazy talk, there are good songs written every day, you just have not heard them.... and you wont with that attitude.

I like the suggestion about independant music and college type radio. That is an excellent way to find new music that suits your tastes. Another way is to go to music festivals and search out bands you have never heard of before. You would be amazed at how many excellent musicians are out there that the large record companies are not trying to spoon feed you.

re: John Mayer

I saw him just by chance at the Austin City Limits Festival last Semptember, he put on a great show. I was not into his music before, but he is a terrific performer and a much better guitarist than he is given credit for. He will have a long career, mark my words.

re: JT

That is dance music, so you have to go to dance clubs to find people who like it. If you want a good laugh, check out his "performance" on Saturday Night Live, i am sure its on Youtube and its called "d**k in a box". He is poking fun at his genre, its hilarious.


 9:19 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have just bought tickets to see The White Stripes, Faithless and The Kaiser Chiefs at a festival in Hyde Park, London.

No good acts? Yeah right ;)


 9:29 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

There hasn't been a decent song written or sung since July 12, 1967!

LOL . . curiosity got the better of me . . . a few notables . . .

On July 12, 1967 on the set of "Speedway" Elvis announced that his wife Priscilla was pregnant.

CREAM: July 12, 1967 Floral Hall, Southport, Merseyside, England

Yardbirds: July 12, 1967 Crimson Cougar, Aurora, IL

....John Petrucci. Born on July 12, 1967, and raised in Kings Park...

On July 12, 1967, a black taxi driver named John Smith was arrested and brutally beaten by police for illegally passing a double-parked police car and then resisting arrest. .... new and larger riots took place. Twenty-six people were killed, 1,500 wounded, 1,600 arrested, and $10 million in property was destroyed.

So what's your July 12 notable? Inquiring minds want to know. :-)

As for music, well, it continues to evolve, some good, some bad, just like always.

"The only thing new is what you don't know about history."


 10:01 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

My best bet is that around 99.999999% of the truly great music out there is totally unknown.

So, get out and explore!


 2:03 am on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

American Pie


 6:57 am on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

American Pie


Automan Empire

 7:29 am on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

.oO(or, you can be like me and like Classical, and feel old no matter how old you are or aren't) :)

Nothing like having a 16 yo stepdaughter to keep you exposed to the "new" music. Honestly, I have to say that the percentage of wheat to chaff is about the same as it was in my own imagined heyday of music; I hate most new music now AND then.

Not to sound entirely pessimistic; as long as creative humans have free rein, new songs will keep coming out that just move you!


 2:52 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

The day the music died?


 4:04 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

#1 No, popular music is not so good right now. It is dominated by the American Idol mindset of quick bucks. There is plenty of good music being made, it just has no chance to be heard over the Music Biz Hype Machine's banal drone of sugar-coated pap. Mainstream American popular music has always been pretty dull, lowest common denominator stuff- the years 1956-1973 were a cultural/historical abberation which will probably not be repeated, so get used to supporting the indie artists.

#2 I beleive Mr. Timberlake's demographics would fall into the tween to mid twenties middle class female camp. To a certain extent, yes, you are just too old. Also too old for the Cartoon network.


 4:12 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Arctic Monkeys, The Killers, The White Stripes, Muse, Jack Johnson, Gossip, Zero7, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, The Kaiser Chiefs, royksop, Groove Armada, Gwen Stefani, The Flaming lips, Kings of Leon, Gossip, Lily Allen, The Magic Numbers, Blur, The Raconteurs, Franz Ferdinand, Coldplay, the Strokes, Amy Winehouse, Corinne Bailey Rae, Kasabian, Snow Patrol...

All have released great tracks this decade - IMO there's soooooo much good music being produced at the moment. I can't keep up (my wallet has a restriction on two albums a month).


 4:23 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

limbo the answer is Lily Allen.


 4:49 pm on Mar 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have been thinking about this for quite sometime.
I'm a musician, have been for 20 years, piano, guitar, drums, bass. I grew up on Country Music, (Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Dolly Parton) and one day heard Kashmir by Led Zep, and my life changed. The next influential album was Thriller, just of how well it was produced, and how far ahead of its time it was concerning M.I.D.I, it was the first album to utilize MIDI which today is obsolete compared to the Digital processing that goes on.
I never really got to much into Hip-Hop or Rap, primarily because I have always had a problem with music that sound the exact same way everytime it was played. The music didn't allow for mistakes to be made during the live performances, (think Jimmy Hendrix and Little Wing covers that people even try to produce the mistakes made) I love going to concerts and hearing live music, mistakes and all, I think it adds some dimension to the music. On the flipside, The Chronic by Dr. Dre, is one of the best studio-engineered albums I have ever listened to.
So the need for a musician to perform the music as opposed to a computer has been deeply rooted within me for quite some time, but there was something alittle deeper then that that rubbed me the wrong way, but could never put my finger on it unitl a couple of years ago, and the conclusion that I came to is this...

Today's Music resolves too perfectly.

If you understand that statement in your heart of hearts, please keep in mind that you are not alone in your longing for the days when music moved you, instead of something that just occupies the time.


 10:03 am on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

^ ^ ^ And we want our analog back TOO! :-)

The day the music died?

That'd be 1959. Come on ken_b, what's with the date?


 10:20 am on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

You mainly remember the good music so history gets distorted in your mind.

In ten years time, you'll remember bands from now that you like, forgetting the rubbish that you never bought or listened to.


 10:58 am on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

The day ken_b stopped singing in the shower?


 11:32 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

Arctic Monkeys, The Killers, The White Stripes, Muse, Jack Johnson, Gossip, Zero7...

Dammit, limbo, you got there before me. I was just about to kick off.


 7:49 am on Mar 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

Welcome! You are now officially a member of the group that are "old"......whether you like it or not!

"Don't Panic"......as the good book says......it simply means we are older and wiser than those that like the junk music released today.

In 20/30 years from now they will see the light and agree with us.....in the meantime, accept that you are getting older and wiser :)


 9:21 am on Mar 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

Pop music has always sucked. Popular music has always been an embarrassment. Why didn't the Velvet Underground sell a ton of records when they first came out? Or the Stooges and MC5? Captain & Tennille Muskrat Love is the good old days?

In the good old days people were still carrying the banner of the beatles while the musical landscape was moving forward by decades with bands like the jam, joy division, buzzcocks, smiths, bauhaus, psychic tv, coil, sonic youth, swans, orbital, nurse with wound, etcetera etcetera. Not eveyrone's cup of tea but that's why it's not pop until twenty years later.

Why didn't Leonard Cohen make the pop charts in the seventies? Coil's album, "Love's Secret Domain" from around 89 or 1990 is adventurous but also their most accessible.

Nowadays I only listen to college radio, classical, jazz, Cajun, various world music genres and even older music like Buck Owens. Why not go back in time to discover the good stuff?

Todays music doesn't suck, there's lots of cool stuff out there. But in my opinion you're never going to find the exciting stuff in pop except in rare cases. Pop stuff like Gorillaz or Black Eyed Peas are this decades' KC and the Sunshine Band and will probably last. Most everything else, like everything else that preceded it, won't.

There's a ton of great stuff out there but the original uncut stuff is generally not coming at you from the mainstream radio stations or on MTV.


 10:49 am on Mar 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

the original uncut stuff is generally not coming at you from the mainstream radio stations or on MTV.

Thankfully, Radio 1 is there to save the planet. >;->


 11:18 am on Mar 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

Try Lucinda William's new disc 'West'. Great stuff


 12:15 pm on Mar 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

>>Why didn't the Velvet Underground sell a ton

Probably because, overall, their music sucked. However, I confess to having at least one Velvet Undergroud album. :)


 12:15 pm on Mar 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

the original uncut stuff is generally not coming at you from the mainstream radio stations or on MTV.

Thankfully, Radio 1 is there to save the planet. >;->

I only ever listen to radio one when I get my hair cut - my barber has it on - it is dire - full of garbage wannabie musicians. Since they changed their policy and started trying to be a teenager's station listenership nosedived and now radio two has more listeners (and plays better music).

The best (bar none) station at the moment is Radio Caroline it's not on the airwaves anymore but it's on line and on the sky digital platform.

There is a lot of good new music around but it is submerged under the sea of dumbed down dross. I blame reality TV, the rise of the "DJ" as a performer and "Rap" all of which gives people with no talent whatsoever the opportunity to pretend they are musicians, perform and record thus thrusting their inanity on to the rest of us.

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