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Bless pr0n! I now know which DVD to buy!
Taking a moral high ground loses the battle - again!
balam




msg:3229517
 12:59 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well bless the American pr0n industry; if it wasn't for them and Sony playing nanny to the world, I wouldn't know which new DVD player - HD DVD or Blu-Ray - to buy. But Sony, lead developer of Blu-Ray, announced yesterday that I should buy an HD DVD player.

Ok, they didn't outright say that I should purchase the competitors' products, but they did say that that they wouldn't work with the adult film industry (AFI). There are also rumours around that if licensed Blu-Ray duplicators work with the AFI, then their license will be revoked.

Now, it's not Sony's anti-smut stance that made the decision for me, and it's not that I'm pro-smut; it's that I'm old enough to have an eye on history...

Sony released Betamax in 1975; JVC released VHS in 1976. Thus began a "format war" that lasted a decade, with Sony finally conceding defeat in 1988 when they started to produce VHS machines. While a number of factors ranging from the length of an American football match to plain arrogance (on Sony's part) decided the dominance of the VHS format, little discussed - probably because of the stigma - is the impact of the AFI on consumer choice.

Can anyone deny that sex sells?

When Sony introduced their new, proprietary format, they refused to have it sullied with boobies. In the late '70's, the AFI was seeing declining attendance in theatres and an increasing interest from the female population in their product. And now consumers could watch movies (of any sort) in the comfort of their home. With Sony refusing to deal with them, the AFI had no choice but to turn to the VHS format.

Fast-forward (ahem!) to today...

Did you know that Hollywood made US$9 billion last year? Did you know that the AFI made US$12 billion? Did you know that the AFI has always been a technological trail blazer on the 'net?

So, since Sony refuses to learn history's lessons, the AFI is again being pushed to a competing format. And basically, if it's good enough for porn, it's good enough for me.

PC Magazine, via Yahoo! News: HD DVD or Blu-ray? Even the Porn Industry Won't Touch It [news.yahoo.com]

[...] there is a new format war at hand, one between two high-definition discs whose similarities far outweigh their differences. Nevertheless—whether it be out of habit or simply a wish for the whole thing to be over and done with—many have started looking toward the adult entertainment industry to get a better feel of which way the high-definition winds are truly blowing.

itWorldCanada: Sony says 'no' to porn on Blu-ray Disc [itworldcanada.com]

Many believe that Sony's Betamax video tape format, while technologically superior to VHS, died because the adult movie industry was barred from using Betamax, noted Jake Richter, an analyst at Jon Peddie Research. "Is Sony doomed to repeat one of the mistakes of the past? It seems like that may be the case," he wrote in a report. Several adult film companies said the issue is not just gaining access to the "stampers" that reproduce their movies in bulk, but that they also can't get help with technical issues from the companies backing Blu-ray Disc.

HD DVD, here I, uh, come!

 

Leosghost




msg:3229579
 1:22 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

In veiw of their high moral stance on this ..:)
does that mean that the next generation of playstations will also not play the incredibly violent stuff that the current ones do ..?

amazing how the "moral stance" always seems to think it's Ok for kids to see bodies in any condition of exploded and destroyedness ..just as log as the only organic fluid present is blood you can have as much as they can cram onto the screen or media ..and only a sticker to say that it's not suitable for small kids ..

some companies "values" are nearly as weird as the folks that they part own the beatles catalogue with ..

so did sony shoot themselves in the foot yet again in the format wars ..or just drop a boob oo )

I'm with Balam ..someone should tell sony ..the moral right probably buy more 10 times more pron than any other group ..they just wrap it in choirboys surplices to get it past the congregation .

digitalghost




msg:3229588
 1:27 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

Dunno, might be because those pr0n folks are concerned that hi-def and p0rn don't mix...
[digitmag.co.uk...]

bigjohnt




msg:3229599
 1:36 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

the largest pron collection on earth is in the Vatican. 'Splain this to me again?

Moral high ground... hmmm...

prohibition of gambling on internet, political correctness, no christmas decorations... and we are in the mideast "spreading democracy" based on lies.
Britney with no pants flashing the goods while kindergarten kids are expelled from school for "sexual harrassment" for pinching a classmates bum.
While the rest of the world looks on and asks what happened to America? It's not the freedoms that cause it. Its the people who disagree with those who use their freedoms differently than them that do it.
Way off foo topic, I know.
Good observations re: Blu Ray etc.

SHAME on SONY. Stupidest marketing blunder of the century. Do they not know that its pron that drove the entire at home video industry?

Leosghost




msg:3229600
 1:39 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

Jenna Jameson ..."But from a woman's perspective, we hate it because you can see every little piece of our body," ..

I thought that was the point of her movies ..

Maybe she is worried folks will see the lifts and the tucks :)...remember when it wasnt pron but art when it was all soft focus and vaseline on the lenses like penthouse used to do ..well at least thats what us art students used to say at the time :)

bigjohnt




msg:3229604
 1:44 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

... but,. jst like the magainzes. We dont watch them for the bodies. its the scintillating dialogue.

Leosghost




msg:3229606
 1:47 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

the largest pron collection on earth is in the Vatican.

nah ..thats just the art ..the real illegal pron is in locked drawers in most of the preists churches ..and in the bishops covered up reports on what the priests have been upto around the world and over the years ..

not that the vatican has any monopoly on what clerics and the religious have been making the little children suffer ..they just institutionalised it first ..:(

balam




msg:3229607
 1:47 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

> hi-def and p0rn don't mix

It's not just AFI performers that are concerned; it's all people who appear before the camera...

The Olympian: HDTV clearly a scary change for image-conscious actors [theolympian.com]

Some TV types say big-screen HDTV could lead to the end of the extreme close-up as we know it. Others predict hi-def fears could soon be reflected in artists' contracts.

Being show business, Botox injections and facelifts continue, even though HDTV reveals the tight lines and plumped lips in extreme clarity.

"Just about everything is more obvious in hi-def," says Sheila McKenna, founder of New York-based Kett Cosmetics, an airbrushed, HDTV-friendly makeup line used by some on "The View," "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition," "Today," and all over CNN and ESPN.


balam




msg:3229610
 1:51 am on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

> I thought that was the point of her movies ..

<guilty>;)</guilty>

Murdoch




msg:3230633
 9:02 pm on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

It's not that pr0n won't come out on blu-ray, just that the Sony production plant will not press it.

Vivid is one AFI leader who has already released information to the point that they will be pressing their own blu-ray discs.

I for one welcome our new hideously realistic sexy overlords

zCat




msg:3230798
 11:41 pm on Jan 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

Surely it must be possible to "downgrade" resolution so the picture that comes out looks just as it would using current DVD technology?

Leosghost




msg:3230846
 12:15 am on Jan 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

usually just your eyeglasses steaming up ought to do the trick :)

Hester




msg:3231282
 11:49 am on Jan 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

Interesting thread. Regarding HD TV, two things will likely happen here:

1. Post-production artists will be employed to airbrush out spots and wrinkles etc. This could lead to the end of much live TV as broadcasts are held back until edited.

2. It'll mean the return of the horrid soft-focus image. Instead of 1 above, I'm sure there'll be a way to softly digitise a face in certain areas in real-time. Perhaps news readers will then have to stay fixed as they read the news!

bigjohnt




msg:3236179
 6:27 pm on Jan 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

..or maybe the return of the old silk over the camera lens trick as standard. but would HD show the silk...hmmm
Trivia: who was the actress that required silk over the lens for closeups --it was in her contract.
(I forget, dont ask me.)

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