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Timeshares
I don't get it...
Jordo needs a drink




msg:3206295
 10:53 pm on Jan 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

What's the point in paying a lot of money for a timeshare if you have to pay almost what a hotel costs for a week in maintenance fees? I can understand if there weren't maintenance fees, but I don't see the point in buying into something you really don't own and then still pay maintenance fees other than the spouse gets to say she has a timeshare like her friends...

What am I missing?

 

Swanny007




msg:3206302
 11:01 pm on Jan 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm wondering the same thing. I had looked at a timeshare in Vegas. It was cheap to buy but the annual fees were like $500 or something. Yikes.

LifeinAsia




msg:3206327
 11:23 pm on Jan 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

If it was such a great deal, they wouldn't need the high pressure sales people hyping it so much.

We went to one of the timeshare thingees in Vegas (so we could get the free dinner & show tickets), even though we had absolutely no interest in buying. At the time, we certainly weren't in a financial position to buy even if we wanted to.

I have to tell you that the sales guys were good! They kept offering better and better deals (at least they SOUNDED good at first listen) to get us to buy. But no matter how they tried to spin it, those maintnenance fees just wouldn't go away.

Yeah, $50/month (or whatever they were) don't sound like much. (Compared to our HOA fees, that's a bargain.) If you're living there year-round! But once you do the math and multiply the monthly fees by 12 (which can go up every year) for the real cost of staying there for 1 week, ick! Well, OK, $600 for 1 week in Vegas doesn't sound that bad either. But that's on top of the thousands of dollars you paid to buy it.

kevinpate




msg:3206330
 11:34 pm on Jan 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

My fav brash pitchman from eons ago was the one who tried to convince me how my life would be oh so much more complete if I'd leap on a bargain priced week for an, admittedly, nice little unit right along the golf course and not too far from the lake.

Ya know, but for two little facts, he mighta sold me. First, there was nothing about me that even remotely suggested I was a golfer. Second, even if I were a golfer, I'm fairly sure I wouldn't have picked mid February as a great week to go golfing in the Arkansas hill country.

But oh could he pitch his lines with a straight face.
It was worth the tour just for that show alone. I so admire good acting. :)

gamiziuk




msg:3206544
 5:24 am on Jan 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

I live in Daytona Beach, and we have our share of timeshare properties here too. I think the same way - what kind of loser would buy into a timeshare.

The only advantage I see, is the ability to "swap" your timeshare with another property in another part of the country you want to visit. So one year you could hit the beach, another year you could go skiing in Colorado, etc. But this is only true for timeshares that participate in Interval International, which handles the "swapping" business. (So you buy a timeshare someplace that is CHEAP and swap it with some other place that is EXPENSIVE)

You can also "sell" your timeshare like its a piece of property. I don't quite understand what sort of "property" is being sold...

Green_Grass




msg:3206608
 7:28 am on Jan 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

There is a 'sucker' born every minute. These guys just cash in on this very valid premise.

I run the other way , when I get a phone call 'inviting' me to tea and snacks at a big five star hotel.. ;-)

I normally say sonething like: I am filing bankruptcy next week..or I am currently very short of money..Can I borrow some at this meeting etc .. This normally puts them off for a while.

jsinger




msg:3208897
 3:40 am on Jan 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

For years I've been trying to figure out ANYONE would buy a timeshare.

I have stayed in several wonderful timeshares and resort condos over the years. Rented by the week which can be very cheap. I pity the poor sucker who actually owns the unit that he's renting to me below his cost.

And who would want to take his vacation in the same place at the same time each year? As for trading, that works as long as your timeshare is in a place that's trendy...this year.

Yes, timeshares are all about marketing (much like whole life insurance or most maintenance contracts).

Still want a timeshare? Buy on the aftermarket at 20%-60% off.

ItsAllBallBearings




msg:3211399
 6:02 pm on Jan 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

this thread reminds me, my friend wants to sell his 2 (thats right 2) timeshares in Hawaii! I never got up the nerve to ask him why in d he11 he would buy 2 timeshares in the same place. Oh, and he lives in Florida, so nothing like shelling out $2000 in airfare everytime you want to go on vacation.

jsinger




msg:3211472
 8:10 pm on Jan 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

why in d he11 he would buy 2 timeshares in the same place

Don't you know, they're a great investment. LOL

Leosghost




msg:3211561
 10:40 pm on Jan 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

I never got up the nerve to ask him why in d he11 he would buy 2 timeshares in the same place.

the two reasons may well have been named "Honey " and Lulu"

the well known female time share seller twins ..

"hi ..I'm Honey and this is my twin sister Lulu ..d'ya 'll wanna spend some shared time with with us :))?"

ever see an ugly time share seller?

No ..

Why ..?

because the job qualifications are the same as for the other accost 'em on the sidewalk or in bars "profession" ..

look real cute ..and lie convincingly ..

I have way more respect for those of the above who dont try to con old folks out of their savings ..

D_Blackwell




msg:3211726
 2:53 am on Jan 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have never had any interest in timeshare schemes. Was shocked to find how heavily Disney is into them.

woop01




msg:3211762
 3:54 am on Jan 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

My favorite 'reasons' for buying a timeshare...

-Have something to leave to your family if you die (best way to sucker the seniors in)
-It's an investment
-They'll finance it for you at 18%
-It "forces" you to take time for vacation each year
-Timeshare chicks are hot
-They have all of these other timeshares for sale from previous owners for 20% of the price they quoted earlier (nice investment)
-They'll stop talking if you just sign the form
-Because they give you a free gift. After two hours of being a jerk...

Timeshare chick - "So if you knew you didn't want a timeshare why did you come to the meeting?"

Me - "Because you called and offered a $100 savings bond."

Timeshare check - "So you were just going to take our gifts with no intention of even considering it?"

Me - "Yeah, now you get it. I really wish we could have addressed this issue two hours ago."

LifeinAsia




msg:3212201
 4:35 pm on Jan 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Timeshare check - "So you were just going to take our gifts with no intention of even considering it?"

Me: Oh, I considered it. But looking at how unattractive it is as an investment, I'm certainly not interested.

jsinger




msg:3212557
 9:34 pm on Jan 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've wondered about living in a neighborhood where EVERYONE fell for a stupid timeshare pitch!

-Timeshare chicks are hot
and really gullable. Hmmm.

Jane_Doe




msg:3213877
 9:16 pm on Jan 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

What's the point in paying a lot of money for a timeshare if you have to pay almost what a hotel costs for a week in maintenance fees?

We've gone to timeshare presentations in Hawaii just for the discounts on the attractions they offer as an enticement and to see what they had to say. At the last one we went to, I brought a calculator.

They wanted $20,000 for a one week stay plus $700 a year maintenance fees. The condos cost around $300K to buy outright. So if they sold all of the "weeks" then the time share people were taking in $1,040,000 for each condo worth $300,000, plus $36,400 maintenance fees a year for upkeep on a 1 bedroom condo.

I think if you want to make money, it would be better to buy a share of the companies selling the timeshares. Those are some pretty amazing profit margins!

Timeshare check - "So you were just going to take our gifts with no intention of even considering it?"

Me - "Yeah, now you get it. I really wish we could have addressed this issue two hours ago."

Pretty funny. We do the same thing only don't have as witty of a counter-argument.

[edited by: Jane_Doe at 9:20 pm (utc) on Jan. 9, 2007]

ispy




msg:3215508
 2:36 am on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Have you ever been to a timeshare presentation?

It's the holy grail of cheesy hard sell and manipulation. The reason people buy it is because they don't know all the facts, or the facts are altered outright. Yep, they lie. It's not stupid customers, it's unethical salesmanship thats the problem here. They tag team you and use psychological interrogation techniques (the softer variety) to pressure you into buying. There is no time to view all your options objectively. None of this chargeback stuff, once you sign the legal contract your dead meat.

Essex_boy




msg:3216625
 9:35 pm on Jan 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

OK people confession time.

I used to own a sales/marketing unit for time share style points club attached to that were two telesales marketing offices.

In all I employed around 15 - 20 people.

I became involved due two friends and the money that we made was amazing.

We would sell the points at around 250 each we paid 50 you had to buy a minimum of 40 points, thats right you pay me 10,000 I pay 2,000, oh yes and theres the small matter of the annual fee.

However the scheme I was involved in had apartments worldwide, in as many places as you could mention via exchange programmes with fellow schemes, it worked and worked well.

You actually own part of the club the club owns the property, hence a rise in value of the property sees an increase in the value of your holding, it was a limited life company which meant it was due to be dissolved in 2040 and funds divided up amongst the points owners.

It was a good deal, timeshare isnt.

However the callcenter staff were born losers, weirdos and druggies, one was arrested for murder, others for drugs and assorted crimes.

Yep they lied, but hell if I caught them they were for the chopping block, the sales staff, well a more slippery slimey bunch you couldnt wish to meet.

Teflon had nothing on these jokers.

They were backstabbing and underhand, tell you what they could out spin a politician any day.

I sold out when: one sales man was murdered working for someone else in Spain, another just vanished, I realised I was dealing with and speaking to a high level mobster in the Med, became fed up with being lumped in with the other dodgy, dishonest, deceitful and violent types.

Dont buy timeshare kiddies, just say No

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