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MrMJS

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Msg#: 3370744 posted 11:12 pm on Jun 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hello,

I'm not sure if this is the right section to post this question but here it goes.

Is there a way to make a flash site so search engines can see the text so the site will get listed?

 

brucec

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Msg#: 3370744 posted 11:29 pm on Jun 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

At this moment, no, there is no solution to SEs reading Flash text, but we are all waiting for Google to do something about it. Hang tight, you are in the majority.

mattclayb

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Msg#: 3370744 posted 9:04 am on Jun 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

That is not entirely true.

I have examples of google indexing text within flash sites already, although it seems very hit and miss.

Google indexes the flash similar to how it indexes PDF's, and this only seems to be in cases where google thinks the entire site is flash (ie no other html content on the page)

brucec

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Msg#: 3370744 posted 1:12 pm on Jun 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

mattclayb, Actually, it is true. How can you say it is hit or miss? That makes no sense. If Google can index one Flash text block, wouldn't Google index all of them? Flash text does not get indexed. You must have plain text somewhere else on your web site and THAT text got indexed, not your Flash text. Trust me, I have designed over 200 web sites and not one of the flash text blocks have been indexed until after I add plain text. Hit or miss? Think about how much sense that makes. Don't compare Flash to PDF. They are two separate technologies. PDFs are not read by spiders either. Just the hyperlinks that point to them. You even said it yourself in the Thread called "Flash and SEO", you said stay away from Flash in your second post.

bcolflesh

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Msg#: 3370744 posted 1:17 pm on Jun 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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File Format: Shockwave Flash .swf

Demaestro

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Msg#: 3370744 posted 2:28 pm on Jun 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

If Google can index one Flash text block, wouldn't Google index all of them?

simple answer....No...

There are proprietary fonts... as well as text with certain styles or effects... also animated text... all these things pose a problem for screen scrapers.

There are ways of getting all your content indexed but it requires duplicating all the content in HTML or XML format and "hiding" it in the page so that only indexers see it.... there are many blogs on the best way to do this... some good ones on this site.

mattclayb

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Msg#: 3370744 posted 10:02 pm on Jun 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

brucec there is no need to get upset.

My company has developed alot of websites too, and there are examples of where google has indexed text from within a flash site.

It seems 'hit and miss' because it depends wether the embedded text in the flash movie is readable, and wether or not there is other readble text on the html page. If you google filetype flash or google eastfloat you will see in the results that google has indexed text from within the swf and outputs it as the description.

With regard to my other post SEO and Flash, of course I stand by that Flash is no good for SEO, I have never suggested anything to the contrary.

mattclayb

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Msg#: 3370744 posted 10:05 pm on Jun 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

And I might add that PDF's ARE read by SE robots.

Google has an algorithm that reads text ot of PDF's and allows the user to view a plane text version. This is common knowledge.

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