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Does Firefox or Adobe Flash Cause These Crashes?
HuskyPup




msg:4454353
 12:25 am on May 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

Straight up...I am so totally pissed off with the amount of flash crashes in Firefox across MANY types of machines.

Total lock-ups, having to ctrl/alt/del and still having issues shutting down...really, Firefox and flash is pissing me off big time.

 

AndyA




msg:4454354
 12:33 am on May 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

I've had issues with Firefox and flash as well. I'm to the point now, where I use IE for almost all videos. Firefox freezes and never comes back, or stalls for periods of time. Chrome is better than Firefox, but not as good as IE in my experience.

I don't remember it always being that way, but it seems to be worse lately.

Leosghost




msg:4454355
 12:38 am on May 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

What it is? can depend on many things ..primarily the config' / specs of the machine you are using ..also the OS, how many tabs you have open etc etc..

Flash is processor intensive ( each instance in each tab makes it more hungry )..Firefox leaks memory ..

Websites and webpages are more complex and use more machine resources to render than they used to..open enough tabs, with enough things "going on" in each page..and enough background processes and windows open..and depending on the OS and the machine spec and the browser..it will all go TU and freeze..

Change something ..how you browse, what you browse with, where you browse..or add more RAM and/ or a faster CPU and graphics card..

incrediBILL




msg:4454358
 1:02 am on May 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

Don't see any crashes with Firefox and Flash and I literally use dozens of Flash sites daily, if not more, on FireFox in both Vista and Win 7 without issue.

Are you running on Win XP, or some other out of date buggy OS that should be in mothballs?

Also, are we talking the latest Firefox 12 or some out of date buggy version?

FYI, more often than not, it's all the buggy add-ons that seem to cause problems with Firefox than Firefox itself. I recently dumped a bunch of the more questionably coded add-ons, esp. the SEO stuff as as know how flaky most SEO software is to start with, and it's running much better.

dstiles




msg:4454744
 8:28 pm on May 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

There are problems with 64-bit adobe software, I understand. 32-bit is apparently fine, though riddled with exploitable holes.

Currently trying to persuade one linux machine to run flash in ANY browser - none work! Others work ok. Never had this problem running linux software 25 years ago. :(

Leosghost




msg:4454755
 9:04 pm on May 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

I've got flash running in opera ..with 217 tabs open.
config:
Opera version
11.62
Build
1347
Platform
Linux
System
i686, 2.6.28-11-generic

( and firefox when I use it ) ..But it is 32 bit my browser will ID itself here as
Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; Linux Mint; en) Presto/2.10.229 Version/11.62

if I leave it vanilla"..

I had it working fine in 64 bit ..but as this machine is only used for the internet and only has 4 gigs RAM I brought it back down to 32 bit as Linux runs a little faster in 32 on 4 gigs RAM than in 64 on 4 gigs RAM..

Opera at 217 tabs uses about 1.6 gigs RAM..and about 3.2 gigs RAM in swap..and is very very fast..

250 tabs open will crash it..mainly because my CPU ( AMD athlon 64x2 dual core 4000 ) will then be at over 90% per core..and actual RAM use will go over 2 gigs and swap at nearer 3.7 ( which is all 32 bit linux can "see" if set up normally )

Given the holes in 32 bit ( agreed , indeed there are ;-) I wouldn't be running 32 bit adobe on a windows box attached to the net..or at least not for long ;)

HuskyPup




msg:4463103
 8:15 pm on Jun 8, 2012 (gmt 0)

There are problems with 64-bit adobe software, I understand.


Ah, really? The only 32-bit machine I run is a powerful Vista set-up and that rarely freezes FF however my 64-bit laptop and PC FF regularly freezes, I also notice these freezes happen quite often when waiting for "intensive" ads to be served.

It's a good job I've always used Opera otherwise I'd get really annoyed.

dstiles




msg:4463145
 9:56 pm on Jun 8, 2012 (gmt 0)

Turn the ads off? :)

Oimachi2




msg:4474768
 10:23 pm on Jul 11, 2012 (gmt 0)

runs fine on XP 32 and crap on Win 7 64 bit, always crashing...

lucy24




msg:4474858
 4:06 am on Jul 12, 2012 (gmt 0)

I've got flash running in opera ..with 217 tabs open.

Famous last words :)

Firefox for Mac inexplicably shows a "You need to add a plugin" dialog that leads to a function that will not work in OS X. You read that right. Not 10.6+, or Lion, or... OS X. Period. Did FF even exist before OS X?

Had to hunt all over the Mozilla site before finding an explanation, leading to manually installing the Flash plugin. For a given definition of "manual". I think it involved three steps instead of the usual two. And now all is copacetic, because the site that triggered the exploration has sound files that play as intended on all browsers. (Well, can't speak for MSIE.) I always thought this was impossible. Come to think of it, I guess it is impossible, since you need a plugin to enable it.

Dijkgraaf




msg:4475911
 8:41 pm on Jul 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

Well I totally UN-installed Flash of one of my computers (my work 64 bit one) where Firefox was crashing a lot, and the crashes stopped happening, so yes, it is definitely Flash that's the problem.

HuskyPup




msg:4489922
 5:48 pm on Aug 30, 2012 (gmt 0)

Just noticed this on the BBC site today from a couple of months ago:

Adobe and Mozilla unable to fix Flash video crash problem

[bbc.co.uk...]

tedster




msg:4489946
 7:12 pm on Aug 30, 2012 (gmt 0)

Nicely spotted, Husky. The article has a link to a page of work arounds on the Firefox Help site that could be helpful: Flash 11.3 doesn't load video in Firefox [support.mozilla.org]

dstiles




msg:4489957
 7:33 pm on Aug 30, 2012 (gmt 0)

The memory / crash problem may have been removed in FF V15 which came out today. It seems to work faster here (linux, UK) on ordinary accesses and posts but I hardly ever use flash so I can't comment on that.

BBC made a big mistake, in my opinion, in forcing flash on people. Especially as adobe are reining back on viable platforms for flash (eg linux, google play), which in turn is encouraging users to get alternative (mostly virus-trapped) flash players.

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