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Brett_Tabke

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 6:28 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I've been considering changing the homepage entirely and going with just a search box and a couple of links to other stuff.

- the homepage is rarely used by regulars. Less than 1% of the daily visitorsr go/come through the homepage.
- the majority of site traffic is driven from forum index pages and through the active list of posts. [webmasterworld.com...] [webmasterworld.com...]
- most homepage watcherx come through the rss feed.

 

weeks

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 6:47 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Weird. I like the home page. So, again, never go by what I, as a user, like. I don't listen to me, others shouldn't either. I look at the data. Or, what makes money.

And, in this case, I'd look at what makes money with the homepage, using the data. That means ads.

It's really hard to talk about what you should do. WW does need to be a bit more friendly to the first-time visitor, asking them to join. ("It's free, fun and easy to be a member. Come join one of the best web community's about the web in the English-speaking world. Click here! Welcome!" etc.)

Each page shown to an unregistered user should be made VERY clear they are invited to join the discussion.

The data should guide you, however, since the regulars don't use the home page.

g1smd

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 7:04 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like the homepage even if I only look at the list of Featured threads just a few times per week.

BarryStCyr

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 7:08 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I agree with g1smd.

emirli_girl

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 7:18 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hi,
I like the homepage so I can see what's going on. Sometimes I just like to keep up to date and am not coming here for a specific problem.

rocknbil

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 7:42 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Well, the main page is always my entry.

Whatever you do, keep the forum lists available. Though I don't always follow "featured threads," I hit several of the listed forums in multiple tabs. I already waste too much time here, if those go away so does my day. :-)

And jump menus suck. Please, God, no . . . no jump menus.

ectect

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 7:51 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I've been in and out of here for a few years and couldn't tell you what the home page looks like - always come in through the Active Posts. Will have to take a look.

nigassma

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 7:54 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Use the data if you've got it.

Matthew1980

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 8:13 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hi all,


Whatever you do, keep the forum lists available. Though I don't always follow "featured threads," I hit several of the listed forums in multiple tabs. I already waste too much time here, if those go away so does my day. :-)


Whenever I come to the website, I come via my bookmark button, and then the tab stays open all day, so I can see what's what most of the day, and like Rocknbil says, I usually then open multiple tabs & spend a while reading stuff from either the "active" page, or see what's current on the homepage. Then I realise it's almost 9:30am! ;)

But as you have the data at your disposal Brett, the figures speak for themselves - just don't completely alter the simplicity of the homepage, the search box would do better on the homepage though, I have only used it a few times, and it doesn't always give the answers I expect.

Cheers,
MRb

gpilling

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 8:14 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like the home page. I use it to stay on top of what is new in the industry.

mack

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 8:24 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I always enter the site via the homepage as well. View homepage threads, then active list, finally go to control panel > my threads to catch up.

I agree there needs to be a rework of the homepage, but I think the top threads should still be displayed, along with the search box.

I would show a different homepage to users based on their logged in status. If a user is logged in, show their threads in a col and the top threads in another col.

Mack.

cfx211

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 8:38 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I always come in through the home page as well. For me its a good way to get updated on big stories in the field and it sometimes points me to interesting discussions that I wouldn't find on my own.

rj87uk

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 9:12 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I do like the home page in that I find out whats going on as I don't always have time to read the active threads. Since I check every day or so I don't think you need that much on maybe just the last three days worth and then you could consider putting the rest in an archive type page with just a [see all home page threads] type link?

RJ

celgins

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 9:27 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I agree--the home page is fine as it is.

If you do decide to change it, it shouldn't be anything too drastic! Then again, "too drastic" is relative to the person viewing it. :)

claus

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 9:50 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like your suggestion Brett. It makes good sense.

Why not make a LSD-style layout: "Logo - Search Box - Directory" ?

The "directory" being a dmoz-style index to the forums.

It's simple, intuitive, user friendly (and a bit retro too). Not least, it's been tested more than any other layout type onthe www and it performs well today just as it did 10 years ago.

You could add some current thread headlights in a side bar. Would be simple, neat and efficient.

Buzz

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 10:19 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Actually, it's been a while since I've been here and I'm glad you contacted me. I've learned a lot at WebmasterWorld.com.

The Home Page as it is, with the News or featured posts highlighted, is really helpful. For me, it offers a different avenue than the forums I visit for info, to learn more, to ask questions and get help. News versus education/help.

So, I'd like to see that distinction maintained and even more clearly underscored.

I understand needing/wanting advertisers. I'm hopeful you can take a design approach that delivers viewing opps, but avoids intrusion.

The thing is, we're inundated at most sites with (often useless) info, ads, interruptions, and more. Even when the info is of value, it can be hard to get at. I think soon, people are going to actively seek more often destinations that give them valuable info while also being a refuge of sorts from the noise/time-wasting distractions of the web. Perhaps that is a direction worth reflecting on.

Have always enjoyed this site. Thank you for it, Brett. Best of luck to you and your redo.

ken_b

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 10:31 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

Personally, I beat the Active Posts list to death on a daily basis.

But I visit the hime page on occasion to review what's on the Featured Threads list.

just a search box...

Boy oh boy, I hope that doesn't happen until, or unless, if ever, you the site search working A LOT better
.

keyplyr

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 10:31 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I sign-in > control panel > my threads and then keep up with the threads I'm following.

But after that I always go to the Home page to see the latest web headlines, so my vote is to keep it at least similar as it is now.

shallow

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 10:39 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I enter via the home page all the time! While not every article interests me, I can easily keep up with major issues happening in the world of the web.

I'm a website owner not a designer or developer, so I need things to be kept simple. I can't keep up all the time on my own, so the home page is important to me.

As an aside, how about a forum for website owners. We may not know a lot about what goes on behind the scenes of our site, but there are related issues of interest to owners.

I don't mean that such a forum would be exclusive to developers; they are welcome to jump in.


Sometimes I feel a little intimidated with answers because they are technical and above my head (I'm persistent, though. I keep asking until I understand what I need to know). ;)

Thanks for the consideration.


PS I agree with those who say the colors of your site should be improved, with more color coordination such as Monochromatic, Complementary, Analogous. The current colors seem like they were simply pulled randomly out of a hat. If anything, the pink really needs to go.

webeditor coutre

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 10:47 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like the homepage but don't think it's too important how it looks since most people bypass it, as long as it's clean and functional. If you get rid of it, it shouldn't matter if persitent menus easily navigate to wherever people want to browse to (including explanation of what the site's all about). You now have a good top-row menu of links, that should be good enough to find our way around.

keyplyr

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 10:49 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I agree with those who say the colors of your site should be improved, with more color coordination such as Monochromatic, Complementary, Analogous. The current colors seem like they were simply pulled randomly out of a hat. If anything, the pink really needs to go.

Absolutely

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 10:50 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

My first visit is to the Home Page, that's where the meat usually is. Although at times it can go a day, or two, or three without any updates. For the most part, it is my main point of entry into WebmasterWorld.

boplicity

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 11:04 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

The homepage is almost like a 'blog' format. With latest interesting news being posted a few times a day.

Why not have an actual blog that would have the same function as the current homepage?

Sylver

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 2:27 am on May 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

Why not try some A/B testing?

Display the current home page to some and a newer homepage to others and see what works bests.

rogerd

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 2:31 am on May 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

I get value from the home page. On any given visit, regardless of where I enter, I'll likely take a peek at it.

But, stats don't lie.

gethan

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 2:39 am on May 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

I also use the homepage to spot the big stories that I might have missed elsewhere - keep the featured topics - I rely on them.

stever

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 7:22 am on May 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

When I used to come here regularly, I had the homepage bookmarked for an overview and then normally swapped to "recent posts" to scan.

MikeKay

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 11:05 am on May 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

I always enter via the home page and it would be missed. In fact, I wish it went back to the 2008 version of the homepage. Featured topics are great. I'm surprised that the stats are so low, especially with subscribers. I vote to keep the homepage.

Cheers

Mike

urbanwebkat

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 1:03 pm on May 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

I'd like the option of customizing the home page once I log in. Let me choose what sections I want to see the latest news in rather than just showing me what's happening everywhere. Otherwise, keep it as is. I think the homepage is fine.

alchemyst

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Msg#: 4140529 posted 1:06 pm on May 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like the homepage current posts format. I have my "favorite"/most viewed topics but often I find something interesting on the homepage I would not see otherwise.

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