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It is broke, so it needs fixed
I assume you have a catastrophic decline in users
cornwall




msg:4139920
 10:16 am on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

I assume that the reason that Brett has provoked this discussion is that user numbers has declined/nose-dived/meltdown. So I assume WebmasterWorld is, to that extent broke, I know not whether broke financially or broke figuratively.

Can it be fixed? I have no idea. I do not know how bad the problem is, but it must be bad for the panic button to have been pressed.

It is similar to the soap marketing business that I used to be in. You have to define your market, you defend your brand, promote it and make small regular changes to keep your market. You get to a point where the product can no longer be sustained, and at that point you, milk the brand to extract the max amount of profit, and let the brand die. At at the same time launch a new "improved " brand under a new name

I have been here at WebmasterWorld on and off so long that I donated before there were walls. I have been here long enough to remember Brett saying Adsense would not work. So why do I rarely drop by these days?

It may be that I have not anything to learn here on Adsense, I have a nice regular income, and do it my way. I have long since got bored with writing posts on Adsense to try to help, its the same thing over and over. I am not interested in whether payments have now been received this month in Timbuktu, nor the burblings of posters who want to be the current Google execs best friend. Basically nothing to attract me to Adsense forum. I appreciate the heady days when we were all learning is over. Can a new presentation take over?

It may be that the easy fixes on search engine placement no longer exist, we do not have monthly Google dances. You have lost that market

It may be that Software cannot be discussed (ban on these things) , so if I am wanting to buy something new, I get no help here.

I put the odd post on Foo, but that invariably gets (unjustly) moderated. The implementation of TOS has descended to the level of a bureaucrat mindlessly enforcing rules without questioning the rules.

So to sum it up "people like me" have drifted away. What is in WebmasterWorld for us? It is broke and it needs fixed, and the fix is not really by changing the colour scheme, it is a radical business reassessment of who your market is and how you can make the site appeal to them. I think you would find it difficult to bridge the gap between the "Muppets" and "the Professionals", you may have to go for one market or the other. You may have to just let this site fade away and launch a series of new sites for specialist markets, which may be the way forward (spin off each forum effectively, if you have little movement of users between forums)

...and don't shoot the messenger, but I would be surprised if this post too is not moderated! In the past criticism has not been tolerated, and perhaps that has been your greatest problem.

 

old_expat




msg:4142528
 4:04 am on May 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

When he says, "from a hacker's point of view..." he does not mean from HIS point of view.


How is it possible for someone to speak from another's POV?

nigassma




msg:4142532
 4:15 am on May 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

Why are you guys arguing over a post from 3 years ago? Why would anyone hold grudges on a forum that's members rarely meet in real life. It's not like he slept with your mom... or did he? :D

martinibuster




msg:4142555
 4:59 am on May 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

How is it possible for someone to speak from another's POV?


From your point of view, it's not possible to speak from another's POV. While I maintain that words can unintentionally take on different meanings.

From a hacker's point of view, it's not possible to speak from another's POV. While I maintain that words can unintentionally take on different meanings.

zett




msg:4142572
 5:32 am on May 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

I'm done, again, drifting back to the greener pastures, like you, I'm done wasting time, but before I leave, I would like to thank you for helping to prove my point on condesending posts by mods here.


You are soo right. What we are seeing here are the EXACT reasons why many posters have left this site. WW should think about this thread, honestly, not trying to justify this in any way. After all, the members couldn't care less (and in fact do care less) about WW. They will just leave and not add to the site any longer. It's clearly WW who should be concerned.

buckworks




msg:4142579
 5:52 am on May 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

Why are you guys arguing over a post from 3 years ago?


Because someone dredged it up and used [their reading of it] as the basis for insults.

How is it possible for someone to speak from another's POV?


When one is sharing what one understands about that person's point of view. Reporters and news analysts do it frequently.

They will just leave and not add to the site any longer.


People will self-select and go where they are most comfortable.

Coming from a different angle here ... it is absolutely and totally appropriate for an ethical e-commerce technician to know a great deal about what hackers / crackers do.

It's very much like how a locksmith ought to know more about picking locks than anyone else in town.

old_expat




msg:4142585
 6:05 am on May 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

How is it possible for someone to speak from another's POV?


When one is sharing what one understands about that person's point of view. Reporters and news analysts do it frequently.


When one is sharing what one understands about a 3rd party "POV", his is stating his own point of view.

Responsible reporters and news analysts talk about an issue or a situation or cite/quote something/someone.

old_expat




msg:4142587
 6:09 am on May 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

How is it possible for someone to speak from another's POV?


While I maintain that words can unintentionally take on different meanings.

Incredible!

Hobbs




msg:4143279
 10:21 pm on May 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

I second over-moderating, and management's failure to respond
almost a year since my last post here.

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