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Reputation - Thumbs Up - Thumbs Down - Voting Stars
Shaddows

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 4:23 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Any thoughts on capturing reputation?

If so, "thanks" only, or "thumbs up" Vs "thumbs down"

Minimum seniority for voting?

Minimum seniority for gaining reputation?

 

brotherhood of LAN

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 4:27 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

thumbs up from me.

it would be a good compliment to post count.

why not take it a step further and have voting at the thread and post level too.

So, for all the posts about "ranking in google", some threads can stick out more, it would likely compliment any search function.

caribguy

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 4:30 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

+1 on all three counts. Needs to be approached with maturity, no need for self-serving reputation junkies.

lammert

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 4:37 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

In my opinion all members are equally valuable, also those who may not be able to formulate their messages perfectly or who have a different opinion than you. The value of a thread is created by the different opinions, the discussion about it and the consensus, not by the stand-alone value of the individual messages.

Therefore I vote thumbs down on reputation tools.
Waiting for thumbs down votes from Shaddows, brotherhood of LAN and caribguy ;)

le_gber

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 4:39 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

+1 also - rewarding people who took time to craft an elaborated answer.

anand84

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 4:46 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

One of the successes of WebmasterWorld against other big webmaster forums is that there is no incentive to post here - Like the user is not given hero-status, no trader points, etc. Consequently, only those with a real intention of learning and sharing are here. I guess we need to continue on that trend.

Kelowna

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 4:52 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

In my opinion all members are equally valuable


I do not... I like to know if the person is new or been around a while when they give advice.

thumbs up on on capturing reputation from me.

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 4:55 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Any thoughts on capturing reputation?


I would think that reputation "and" respect come with tenure and the quality of the members participation. I participate in communities where voting is an option and I don't see it used that much. Just like the Like/Dislike features of Disqus or any of the other third party voting features.

I vote no for voting. It's only going to add another bell in the process and take up some processing to boot. I see nothing wrong with the current voting process where you recommend topics for the Front Page. I've liked that method. Maybe it can be extended to include a little more sub forum visibility and provide a Front Page for each forum? Just thinking out loud...

peterdaly

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 5:00 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

In my opinion all members are equally valuable, also those who may not be able to formulate their messages perfectly or who have a different opinion than you. The value of a thread is created by the different opinions, the discussion about it and the consensus, not by the stand-alone value of the individual messages.


I don't think that's true at all in specialty areas like SEO. All members are very much not equal. There are certain members who have established a reputation as being experts in the field and SEO is their full time job. I trust their thoughts much more than others, even when we disagree. SEO is an area where expertise and experience matters.

isorg

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 5:12 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

But it should not be about "rewarding" people.

It is up to each individual to decide whether the person posting a reply is credible or not. That is where the sense of community and a forum's longevity / collective memory comes in.

londrum

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 5:15 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

reputation is silly because what does it mean? if you get some well-deserved rep for your knowledge of PHP, then why should that count when you're posting in the Javascript forum? People might look at it and think you know what you're talking about, when in reality you're just a layman like everyone else.

tangor

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 5:17 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

No from me. I know the "rep" of the posters here by reading them. Don't need a mechanism to tell me who is worthy of my time and respect.

ken_b

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 5:22 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

No thanks.

Unless of course, WW is intent on joining the "Race to the Bottom" that so many other sites ahve rushed to embrace.

Staffa

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 5:29 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like to know if the person is new or been around a while when they give advice.

That information is already displayed right under the username ;)

oh.. and no to thumbs up or down

AndyA

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 5:33 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I vote NO on reputation, as it all too often becomes a popularity contest. I've stopped posting at forums because of posters with high reps that hadn't necessarily done anything to earn it, but had groupies that recommended everything they said.

All members are equally important, and should be treated as such.

akmac

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 6:11 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Rep points seem to be a poor substitute for actually spending time here and learning which people are worth a closer listen. Also, we should avoid creating the illusion that people are experts in every subject, when it's more likely that their expertise is focused in one area.

That said, for the sake of expediency there should be some method for others to skip the dreck, and a way for us to effectively say "great post!" without actually having to post it.

So, I vote no on rep points, and yes on post ratings. Maybe a simple clickable 5 star system next to each post, with varying weights given to users votes based on how many votes they have themselves received in that particular forum.

tonynoriega

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 6:13 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like this idea. Upvoting answers will give good credibility to those who know what they are talking about, not those who just throw up an answer and hope it works...

chicagohh

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 6:37 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like a reputation system. It may get a few of us to post more.

tangor

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 6:51 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

There is a mechanism already in use... called recommend (ultimately leads to library). If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 6:54 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I vote no for voting.


Ditto. Having observed the behind the scenes aspects of reputation systems on other forums, I'm for no voting as well. Voting distorts why people post and the kinds of posts you get.

You end up with a lot of cutesy 10 Best Ways to Reinvent The Wheel type posts... and the forum can become a lot more cliquish.

tibiritabara

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 7:04 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I like reputation.. it can bring more quality answer or more participation...

Readie

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 7:09 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

I'm not really for or against this system, I've been here long enough to know the real experts by now.

With regards to the "rank people up and down" I think it should be 2 systems:

Total up & down votes
Up & down votes for each forum.

So if I post a lot of helpful and constructive posts in the PHP forums (My strong point) - and then go and post in something like the SEO forum (Something I know very little about) then it'd be good for users of the SEO forum to see that of my (hypothetical) 500 up ranks, I have very few, or none from the SEO forum.

tangor

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 7:21 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Speaking real world experience operating a number of forums on the web: "Reputation" in forums, as currently practiced on the web, and in mine where I allow it, is bogus. Parlor tricks, Will 'o the Wisp, krappola, no benefits. Gamed out the whazoo by mentally deficient, er, psycho, er, wannabes.

Long time members of WW know who has rep... and who has yet to gain rep. We don't need no steekin' applause meter to tell us who is which...

bpickartz

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 8:26 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

What's wrong with the way the information is posted now?

johnser

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 8:36 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

fine as things are

thelostagency



 
Msg#: 4138620 posted 8:41 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

i would say yes

profitpuppy

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 8:43 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Some kind of points system where people get votes from other uses when they post good content, this is a great way to incentivize people to post good content. People already post great content because of the community, this will make it better.

optik

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 10:13 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

No need to put people on pedestals, there is always different ways to approach a problem, it shouldn't be about popularism otherwise there would be no innovation just following of others.

alt131

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 10:17 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

No to reputation / voting stars - for all the reasons given by those who have already said no or "no need"

englishextra

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Msg#: 4138620 posted 10:34 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)

Reputation Idea is bad: it generates hypocricy

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