|What's RIGHT about WW now|
Remember how we got here
| 3:35 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
First, it will be impossible to complete define what is right about Webmasterword.com. Part of any successful community, online or RL is mystical.
That said, let's give the mods a salute. And where to the mods come from? Who manages the mods? The management/owner of this site. How does he do such a good job? I have no idea. This site is managed with a clear vision.
|This site is a service to the web site administrator community. We are here for WebmasterWorld members to discuss the process of doing business on the internet. Running a website takes a great deal of knowledge. The design, coding, maintenance, promotion, marketing, and management of a website is almost an impossible task for one person alone without extensive training. We are here as a forum for the members to share and gain knowledge in operating and promoting a website. Think of us as part of your extended site development and process team. |
We are not here to actually do business with one another.
This vision is executed with hard work and talent. And a touch of luck.
One thing I like about this board is that it has remained text-driven. Everyone has likely wanted to post a picture, graphic or video into a post at times, but making the posters describe what they have in the link makes for a more thoughtful, useful website. (Helps with search, too, of course.)
This sounds like a small thing, but it's not: On WW the posts put on the home page board often have their headlines edited so as to be clear and compelling.
Another move that was wise: PubCon was created separate from WW. This board has not been taken over by those to attend the conferences, nor is the board used push the program in your face. It's a natural extension of WW, but the dog doesn't wag the tail.
I also like there is no newsfeeds on the site. It would be tempting to offer this service, but it would pull people away from making posts.
And, for the record, the style of this board remains professional, people act like adults, usually. (Look, it's better than my real life, anyway, OK?) Again, that's credited to the mods and the management of the board.
And, let's give credit also to just a very good group of posters. Which the owners of this site obviously appreciate as evidenced by this "Feedback Days." So, we're back to saluting the management of WW, yet again.
I'm certain I've left out some obvious positives.
| 3:47 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
give that weeks guy a beer or an ice cream cone or something!
you nailed it.
it all could almost be condensed into two phrases:
- one you missed; the tag line - "News and Discussion for the Web Professional"
- the other from the mission statement - "We are not here to actually do business with one another."
| 4:09 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I have been on WebmasterWorld for a long time and would like to join in to give positive feedback and a major thumbs up to Brett, all the mods, and the wider participants & contributors.
The maturity and professionalism of the site and community is unique and something to be cherished.
Please don't go all "Web 2.0" on me, don't start having ads all over the place, and don't try to attract a younger audience. There are plenty of other places for that :-)
(Having said that, I appreciate the site must pay for itself, but I can't offer any lessons or wisdom on how to do that LOL.)
| 4:17 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
The reason I came to WW in the first place is that there is a certain kind of authenticity to the tone of the site. That's hard to pin down, but it's always been there.
At that time there were few sources of reliable information about the topics discussed here, especially SEO and monitization. The web was littered (and still is, probably, I haven't actually checked for some time) with crappy, spammy "make tons of money in your sleep! But wait, there's more!" type of sites with a lot of very schwaggy info. Amidst that, this site was a breath of fresh air.
The ideas discussed here may not always be accurate or correct, but they are nearly always authentic (in that they represent the genuine opinion of the poster). Whatever you do, make sure you maintain that atmosphere, it's what makes this forum great.
Now there are other forums with genuine info (heck, there are even books on SEO, what a concept!), but this forum still stands out as more authentic and well-informed than most other sources. Make sure it stays that way.
| 4:35 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Another "thank you, you're doing a great job" crossing the pond towards Texas and wherever else Brett and the mods may be. I wouldn't be where I am today without this board.
I joined a few when I started, WebmasterWorld is the only one that I still visit today - even if it's only from time to time.
| 5:32 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
You guys do a great job, thank you. This is the only board I visit to keep up with what is new in the seo world.
| 5:44 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
It's tough to describe "classy" but it's easy to see it. WW is classy. Thanks!
| 6:09 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
What's right about WW is that it's a board with mods and members with brains as opposed to other places where sometimes I go to read the "expert advice" when I am in need of a good laugh.
Reading posts here helps me to keep my sanity. Thank you WebmasterWorld !
| 7:25 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
1-Ease of navigation
2-Good post descriptions
3-Excellent feedback for people all over the world..This is a big plus
4-Easy on eyes good colors
5-easy to read
6-easy to respond
7-very very good mods that respond to an edit that needed some cleaning up and the "REASON".
This helps those new to understand the rules much better
9-Good post category suggestions to add questions.
10-good people good humor good post (already said that)
11-Learned more here than i can begin to go over.
Whats good about www is just about everything. I think Brett just wants to make it a little better and as we all try to do with our own sites pay the bills.
So lets come up with the best ways for him to do just that.
| 10:19 pm on May 25, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I have said this in another thread but I think it is precisely the outdated look that keeps away the time wasters, if the re-design goes too far I'm sure an influx less professional users would occur.
| 3:11 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I've been away for more than a year (nothing to do with WebmasterWorld itself*), stopped by a couple of weeks ago and have been lurking here and there since. I've got to say that I still agree with all the sentiments expressed above as to why this is still a special board. Many of the old nicks are still around asking intelligent questions and dispensing solid advice; and there's a bunch of relatively new folks also picking up the ball.
I feel that no matter what changes are made as a result of this feedback days discussion -- cosmetic, functional, whatever -- it really all comes down to Brett, the admins and the mods giving pros and aspiring pros a professional atmosphere for discussion. That simply cannot change, and I don't expect it will.
*Just woke up one morning and realized I was tired of Google, Google, Google 24/7 and decided to give myself a one-year break from all boards and simply concentrate on Content, Content, Content. Turned out to be a bit more than a year and I can't say I'm sorry I did it.
| 3:46 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)|
WW forum is the model by which others are measured:
Excellent linkout policy.
Scholarly discussions (well, mostly).
When I post in other forums I seem to follow WW posting guidelines, and I think my posts are received and responded to in a positive way. Keep up the good work.
| 5:43 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I second all the positive comments. I especially like that the messages on WW don't turn into off-topic petty grudge matches - kudos to moderating for that.
I truly like WW as it is. Seriously - what prompts the urge to re-do? Is it to get more members? More paying members? More income? To look more modern? Or just because? Because that really affects what the suggestions should be.
| 8:24 pm on May 26, 2010 (gmt 0)|
About 12 years ago I was tasked with putting up a website for my employer. I knew nothing. Having been a self-taught offset prepress person, it was extremely difficult for me to get my head around how to publish a web site.
I'd hear all these techniques for getting traffic - invisible keywords, PPC, etc. I did a lot of research and came across WW.
Although I no longer work for that company, they still use my basic structure. I have had my own (educational) site for over 10 years. I've owned certain key phrases in all the major search engines for 7--8 years. The site was virtually untouched (not updated) for 5 or so years. I have recently had unsolicited offers to pay to advertise on my site. I am extemely picky about who I reciprocate links with.
One company's analytics estimate my monthly SE cost equivalent at $5.16K (cost equivalent for organic traffic = the amount of money the site owner would pay for such traffic if bought in PPC systems). I pay for no traffic.
It's all due to WebMasterWorld. Thanks.
RE: monetization (which I am NOT good at) perhaps a corporate or educational institution or non-profit would become a patron or pay directly for small discreet ads of appropriate/relevant content. Maybe some schools would be willing to subscribe to WW as a superb research "library".
The only thing I can think of offhand that I'd like to see changed is the Search - I have trouble finding it every time. My eyes are too old and bad to read the navigation bar.