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Google and Microsoft agree measures to block abuse images
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Msg#: 4624102 posted 12:59 am on Nov 18, 2013 (gmt 0)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24980765 [bbc.co.uk]

Google and Microsoft agree measures to block abuse images

Leading search engine companies Google and Microsoft have agreed measures to make it harder to find child abuse images online.

As many as 100,000 search terms will now return no results that find illegal material, and will trigger warnings that child abuse imagery is illegal.

The prime minister, who had called for action from the firms, has welcomed the move.

But he warned it must be delivered or he would bring forward new legislation.

 

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4624102 posted 7:43 am on Nov 18, 2013 (gmt 0)

With no false positives, right? We are not going to have abuse survivors groups, discussion of abuse, news sites etc. clocked? We know how well filtering works:

As many as 100,000 search terms will now return no results that find illegal material, and will trigger warnings that child abuse imagery is illegal.


What is that supposed to achieve? Are there paedophiles who think its perfectly legal and are going to say "oh dear, its illegal, I had better stop?"

and offer advice on where to get help


A child was murdered some years ago by a paedophile who told the authorities that he was a danger to children, and the authorities decided they could not do anything until he committed an offence. Is "austerity except for my pals" Dave going to fund treatment?

This is just going to encourage control freak politicians to try and micro-manage the internet.

Its also a cheap way to deal with the problem. The thing about child abuse images is that they are illegal everywhere, so you should be able to get the servers taken down regardless of location.

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Msg#: 4624102 posted 1:51 pm on Nov 18, 2013 (gmt 0)

Self regulation rarely works well...

Dominic_X

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Msg#: 4624102 posted 4:59 pm on Nov 18, 2013 (gmt 0)

Well it's about time something happened.

It's a start.

graeme_p

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Msg#: 4624102 posted 7:05 am on Nov 19, 2013 (gmt 0)

@Edge, what the search engines are proposing is self regulation

@Dominic, you are succumbing to what is referred toin Yes Minister as the the politicians syllogism:"we must do something, this is something, therefore we must do this".

The right approach is to enforce the existing criminal law.

What is happening is a cheap and ineffective substitute that allows politicians to claim they are doing something, without actually doing things like giving the police more money for investigations.

diberry

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Msg#: 4624102 posted 7:36 pm on Nov 19, 2013 (gmt 0)

I have to agree with graeme_p. Pedophiles are depressingly well connected via peer-to-peer networks which are hidden all sorts of ways from law enforcement. I was just reading that the FBI is begging lawmakers to update laws and give them more tools for tracking these people down, because it's just that difficult.

The pedophile rings that have been broken up so far are not relying on Google and Bing. If they were, they'd be much easier to catch.

If the SEs wanted to do this just on principle, I have no problem with that. But anyone claiming this like it's some big victory for law enforcement is being dangerously misleading. Almost to the point of helping the bad guys stay hidden.

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