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Getting traffic from images.yandex.ru ?
macas



 
Msg#: 4256674 posted 5:47 pm on Jan 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

Hi everyone on this part of forum.

I notice in last few weeks slow-growing traffic from images.yandex.ru.
Anyone had similar experience here ?

My website wasn't optimized for yandex.ru engine ( or it was ? ) but I constantly getting more and more traffic from yandex.ru (images.yandex.ru ).
I wouldn't bothered myself with this situation ( at some point good ) but crappy-dirty images.yandex.ru is hotlinking my images on theirs image index ... Look example of query :
[images.yandex.ru ]

I need advice how to block them or to resolve this problem on my benefit ?

BTW I did partly resolved problem with .htaccess ( all hotlinked images are redirected on my main page . )

 

Rumbas

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Msg#: 4256674 posted 8:32 pm on Jan 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

In many ways Yandex will reward your efforts in terms of optimization for the big non-Russian engines as well. So doing well on G will probably have the same effect on Yandex.

FWIW, why do you want to block that traffic? Redirecting is one way to go, but be careful, you might look like a cloaker and take all the traffic out with that baby.
Maybe just a water mark on the images?

macas



 
Msg#: 4256674 posted 1:26 am on Feb 1, 2011 (gmt 0)

Hi, Rumbas, sorry for later response .

Well, the biggest problem is that they hotlinking my images on Image results and stealing my bandwidth on that way , that's a catch.
Yes ,most of images are with our water mark .

Also, my website is not oriented to non-english users.

Blogger Xstroy



 
Msg#: 4256674 posted 5:37 pm on May 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

Yandex now actively expanding its search database, including the images. They began to actively use technology is the original image. Now comes its active testing and tuning.
:) It is not always as they want.

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4256674 posted 5:42 pm on May 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld Blogger Xstroy :)

Blogger Xstroy



 
Msg#: 4256674 posted 5:53 pm on May 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

Thank you for your kind words! For the first time. Need to get started. :)
I can not upload your avatar. English is not my native language.

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4256674 posted 6:19 pm on May 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

There are no avatars here ..:)

But if you need help finding your way around or want to contact other members privately..click on "sticky mail" ( under their names, the little "envelope" to the left of their post, to send pm's )..and pm's sent to you are found at the top of the page next to your "username" ..

Many people here do not have English as their first language ..don't worry .. :)

A question for you :) do you know the Yandex bot(s) current IP range(s) .. ?

Blogger Xstroy



 
Msg#: 4256674 posted 6:52 pm on May 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

Thank you for your advice.
Here's what he says Yandex on their papers.
[help.yandex.ru...]

Mention of the fact that some of his bots are hidden under other names, but to me this issue was not important.

dstiles

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Msg#: 4256674 posted 10:26 pm on May 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

The worst part of yandex, as far as I am concerned, is their poor distribution of bot IPs. Last year I discovered 96 groups of bot IPs, mostly in 1's, 2's and 3's.

Of those, 4 seem to be persistent imagebot groups (ones that get image links by reading pages), which I block with a 403 (mostly robots.txt blocks image folders anyway).

I do not doubt that images are also gleaned directly from their text bot crawls but then, bing and google do the same so I'm not going to go overboard, especially as my server cannot block image access.

macas



 
Msg#: 4256674 posted 5:30 pm on Oct 4, 2011 (gmt 0)

I must agree with you, dstiles.

I'm not too much bother with losing half of yandex traffic lately, I'm more pissed off because from yandex IPs comes now large amount of nasty hijackers and web scrapers.

They did stole my rankings there and traffic but for me much bigger problem is in stealing my website content.

Trustworthy for Yandex is very low. I'm gonna ban more IPs for good.

dstiles

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Msg#: 4256674 posted 8:44 pm on Oct 4, 2011 (gmt 0)

I think you may have mis-read me there, macas. I have no problem with real yandex bots - they work well and seldom seem intrusive.

My point was that yandex has a lot of fragmented bot IPs: work out which are the real bot IPs and you should have no problem. Also, work out which User-Agents read for images and again there is no problem.

All of the large SE companies allow third party scrapers on their IP ranges. The secret is to not let them in whilst letting in the true SE bots.

lucy24

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Msg#: 4256674 posted 10:00 pm on Oct 4, 2011 (gmt 0)

I've gone back and forth on yandex and currently allow both of them (plain bot and imagesearch, from different IPs). Plain yandex is kinda superfluous for an English-language site, but image search really does send the occasional visitor-- to the point where I had to* add a Cyrillic version of the %-disencoding function I use for UCAS. (ASCII takes care of itself.)


* "Had to" = I was curious about whether what they were looking for had any relation to what they got. Since it generally turns out to be "paintings of rats", I guess yandex is doing its job ;)

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