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Exagirl




msg:3202886
 3:28 pm on Dec 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I'm from the Exalead team.
If you haven't seen our new website yet, please do so.

I will try to give some answers to some of you but in fact if you have comments or suggestions, the best way is to use our very beautiful feedback platform and enter in the Exalead community:
http://feedback.exalead.com/

You can also add your site and even add a searchbox to your site.

Oh and by the way, I hope that Brett will add Exalead to the search form as soon as possible ;-) like the French Wikipedia site alreday did.

Thanks!

[edited by: Rumbas at 12:06 pm (utc) on Jan. 2, 2007]
[edit reason] fixed urls [/edit]

 

asiaseo




msg:3203693
 1:25 pm on Dec 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Questions:

How often will you crawl / update sites?

The date I guess is the date you first crawled the site or is the 'last time' the site was crawled?

Our website shows dates back in April and June and doing site: many pages added since then are not showing. Only 20 pages and recent additiones just another 10.
Will you crawl or if a site has lots of pages not showing should be do a new 'add site '?

Comments:

I like the preview, others have tried this but it was either too large or too slow. This works fast.
The results also come up fast.

I have done some searches for Asia and Australia destinations and very pleased to say that you have got some great results, I have done around 40 searches and they all look good. They were all to the point, plenty of good local content, the sort of results people want.

I will try some more searches. Although I am interested in the few sites that we handle I am in fact far more interested in seeing local valid websites and not just the large corporate sites coming up simply because they have a few links.

I have done some very specific Asia and Australia / NZ searches and the websites showing are those I would expect to see as being valid good results for the search query. I was glad to see plenty of .com.au sites in results for Australian quieries, .com.nz for new Zealand queries, plenty of .com.sg for Singapore etc.
Well done and 'thank you' for including a lot of these good English language sites based on our side of the world.

May I suggest add this to the 'alternative search engines' section also as I would notlook at the European section often at all, but am glad I did.

Rumbas




msg:3205659
 1:29 pm on Jan 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi Exagirl :) Welcome to WebmasterWorld and the European Forum!

Thanks for stopping by and letting us know about the new developements at Exalead.

I hope you're able to answer some of the questions here?

To all members; here is a unique opportunity to get those burning questions about Exalead answered :)

Exagirl




msg:3206621
 8:11 am on Jan 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi asiaseo,

The sites are crawled regularly upon various criteria as the site's popularity but as you guess I can't reveal everything. Basically, there is no "Exalead dance".


The date that you can see below some sites is the date returned by the site's servor which is often the last time it has been updated by the webmaster. There is another date, that you can see on the left when you click on a preview which is the last time the Exabot crawled these sites.


About the "site:" question, sometimes not all the pages of a site are showned or crawled, it's true, because Exalead has some conservative algorithms trying to avoid infinite sites (bad sites) so with the time more and more results will be showned, as the robot detects your site as "not bad".

A tip to know is that if you add the Exalead search box to your site, your site will be crawled more often and deeper.


Thanks for your good comments and I hope I have given some helping answers to you.

Bye

pmkpmk




msg:3206624
 8:36 am on Jan 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Index is full with MfA sites as well. SO where is the advantage in contrast to Google?

Exagirl




msg:3209415
 4:25 pm on Jan 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well as you could imagine we cannot reveal everything ;-)

It's based on a entirely internal solution, not on existing technologies.

We are still at the beginning "of the story", comparing to others it's true, but we are always looking for improvement, that's why we listen our users feedbacks and even if, for now, you consider our algorithm as "wonky" you could help us improve it by submitting your feedback or letting me know about what you think exactly, what we could improve, in a private message if you prefer. Every feedback, good or not, is important to us.

What do you mean exactly by "MfA sites"?

[edited by: Rumbas at 5:21 pm (utc) on Jan. 8, 2007]
[edit reason] As per request [/edit]

jdMorgan




msg:3209683
 7:41 pm on Jan 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

MFA means "Made For AdSense" -- Sites with little or no original or unique content, created primarily for the purpose of serving Pay-Per-Click and banner advertising to visitors. Some are constructed so that the only way to leave the page without using the browser controls is to click a paid advertisement.

Jim

pmkpmk




msg:3210399
 2:25 pm on Jan 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Exagirl, I assume you are an "official" liaison, and not acting on your own agenda? In either case I am surprised that you don't know "MfA", but jdMorgan gave the explanation already.

Let me put it this way:

We have three major engines right now: Google with some 80+% marketshare, Yahoo and MSN. Google brings most of the traffic, but has some pretty annoying - but on the other hand pretty well known - problems. If a website drops from the Google index it has a problem, but we know techniques and countermeasures to cope with. Yahoo and MSN does not bring that much traffic, but they are important factors if you run into problems with Google. Also some things work with Yahoo and MSN, which don't work with Google, and for certain products or services Yahoo and MSN might even be the better platforms. Plus the "M" in MSN stands for Microsoft, and if they decide to use all their weight MSN has the potential to became a major factor and probably drop Google to a +-55% marketshare. So professional webmasters are well advised to wtach MSN closely.

Apart from those, we have a few SE's in the second row, most notably Ask, but I'd keep an eye on Gigablast es well. Then there are local platforms like web.de in Germany, which have quite some potential (though they don't know it yet or the suits won't hear it yet).

Where do you fit into this? The meme of "countering the American (SE) imperialism" certainly has a nice ring to certain ears, and I am not at all surprised that you started out of France. But this game is not "bad" America vs. "good" Europe. It's actually about usability and quality of search results. So if your goal is to be an alternative to Google, Yahoo or MSN, you need to be better then they are. But if I look at your search results, your are not better. You suffer from them very same problems the huge SE's suffer, mostly from spammy results like MfA's. OK, your user interface is pretty Web2.0-like, but Google shows that a user interface is not important for a Search Engine. In order to be taken seriously, it's the results that count. And if I get loads of Spam sites for any given query, I can as well stick with Google.

So, what are your goals, what is your strategy to reach them? Where do you want to be in 1 year, 3 years, 5 years? Why should I switch to you (from a user perspective), and why should I take you seriously (from a professional webmaster perspective)?

Oh, by the way, I'm European.

asiaseo




msg:3210918
 2:57 am on Jan 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Exalead may be small at the moment but at least someone is interested in our views!
At least when I did searches for South East Asia and Australia / NZ I managed to find plenty of local good websites that for 'some reason'(!) rarely appear on the majors. I also did some specific searches for places I have been to in Europe and again, there were plenty of local content websites for those locations.

If Exalead are willing to talk with us and to exchange opinions that can only be for the good. There is a mine of information available from here and if Exalead want us to comment, make suggestions, discusss, then it is an opportunity for us all.

Exagirl




msg:3217132
 11:49 am on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well, about MfA sites, we are still trying to ban those sites, if you have examples, do not hesitate to forward them to us or better to use our Feedback platform, created for that.

Our goals are to be between the third and the fifth world search engine.

Our strategy is based on innovation for the user experience and based on the web 2.0., but for that you'll see, it's gonna be very interesting soon ;-) Also, we will be more on the Europe and in the world generally speaking and as we are supported by press and we will communicate a lot this year.

Innovation should not Always come from America, in Europe also we have great ideas and qualified people, let us show you soon!

And as a webmaster, you may also consider that it's quite "dangerous" for you to only count on one search engine: what if tomorrow its algorithm changes and your site has a bad position in search results or what if your site no longer appears at all?

There is another way to offert, instead of being based on the algorithm only, like our serendipity pattern, which consists in helping people find what they are looking for in an intituive way, thanks to search navigation and query refinement, so not just having to write the good keywords to have the good results you expect.

Finally, for now there is only one Major search engine but maybe it's time to move on and to offer something different to people :-) That's how things can be interesting!

rj87uk




msg:3217184
 12:46 pm on Jan 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have got to say, I love the results. i have done around 10 or more searches for different types of things and found what I have been looking for each time.

Here is some feedback in the public eye:

[x] I think you have a problem with large URLs for example a search brought back this: www. blah .com/blah/0/blah/3%20blah%20blah/3%20blah%20blah%20-%20blah%20blah.htm - Slightly annoying.

[x] The top of the page looks very busy and for people doing searches looking for specific websites all that extra stuff is annoying. I don't like the thumbnails either :(

[x] Slight confused I done a search for "Smack that lyrics" song (akon) and all the results where about 3 Doors down song - "smack".

Thats it for now, I think this Search Engine has the potential of converting me from google, scary thought.

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