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Can a competitor get your domain blacklisted with email spam?
olimits7




msg:4547530
 5:52 pm on Feb 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I was just wondering; could a competitor get your domain blacklisted if they spoofed or sent an email blast spamming with your domain?

Or would their IP address just get blacklisted and it would not have an effect on the domain name?

Thank you!

 

MarkOly




msg:4547613
 8:16 pm on Feb 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

As far as the major blacklists, like Spamhaus, I know they work off IP. Defintely the IP of your host's mail server. And maybe the IP of the originating computer, found in the email's header.

As far as Gmail, Yahoo, etc, they have their own rules for spam filtering. They definitely use the blacklist reports. And I think they also combine other things - like domain, possibly - and possibly the results of their SPAM / NOT SPAM buttons.

For awhile, I had the worst time getting my emails thru to Gmail. I couldn't figure out what they were using to classify my emails as bad. My host's email server wasn't blacklisted. My personal Roadrunner IP was on one blacklist. But it's always on a blacklist, no matter how many times it changes. So I think there's something else. I wonder how much effect the SPAM / NOT SPAM buttons have. I couldn't help but to think that maybe a few people went thru their entire email folders, clicking SPAM on everything, including my emails. At one point, when I would take a phone order from somebody with a Gmail address, I would tell them to check their SPAM folder for order confirmation. And oh yeah, "Do me a favor and click the NOT SPAM button." Not long after that, the Gmail problem went away. I'm sure that was just a coincidence though. Anyway, I would love to know how many SPAM clicks it takes to get you blacklisted on Gmail. And how many NOT SPAM clicks to take you off. I bet it's less than you would think.

I'm always checking my host's email server for blacklisting. As soon as it's blacklisted, I send my host an email to let them know. Within a day, it's usually off the blacklist.

piatkow




msg:4547680
 11:06 pm on Feb 21, 2013 (gmt 0)


I couldn't help but to think that maybe a few people went thru their entire email folders, clicking SPAM on everything, including my emails.


I have watched people simply use the spam button on anything that they didn't want to open.

Leosghost




msg:4547684
 11:34 pm on Feb 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

I was just wondering; could a competitor get your domain blacklisted if they spoofed or sent an email blast spamming with your domain?

yes..

olimits7




msg:4547709
 1:45 am on Feb 22, 2013 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the replies!

So if I have an affiliate that joins my website's "affiliate program" and they spam a bunch of email addresses from their own IP address promoting the affiliate ID URL link I provide to each affiliate I would have to worry about this affiliate spammer getting my IP address blacklisted? or just my domain name?

I'm guessing they wouldn't be able to blacklist my IP address because the emails that were sent came from their own IP address, but I'm just wondering if a domain name can be blacklisted?

Because when I check on mxtoolbox.com it looks like it looks up the IP address and not the domain name.

RhinoFish




msg:4547978
 7:33 pm on Feb 22, 2013 (gmt 0)

I'm guessing they wouldn't be able to blacklist my IP address because the emails that were sent came from their own IP address, but I'm just wondering if a domain name can be blacklisted?


Who do you mean by they?

The FTC will come after you for your partners actions.
Search engines will too.
Both are rare, but catastrophic.

HRoth




msg:4548045
 9:09 pm on Feb 22, 2013 (gmt 0)

In the past, my domain name was used in various spoofed spam email campaigns for penny stocks and whatnot. No evil eye, it never had any effect on my biz. The only thing that did result in my emails being spam-blocked was having a Roadrunner ip address. I have also been told that a one-line email with a link in it can get you thrown in the spamcan with hotmail.

Hoople




msg:4548240
 9:20 pm on Feb 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

Most of the newer SPAM filters have no problem hadling 'Backscatter' and 'Joe job' types of SPAM if you have set up your DNS to identify your domain properly.

Do some research on Domain Keys, SenderID and SPF. There are several good threads here on WW on this topic, see [webmasterworld.com ] More can be found with the 'site:webmasterworld.com domain keys' search string.

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