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Report: UK Mail Prices to Rise Significantly
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Msg#: 4431808 posted 6:13 pm on Mar 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

If proven to be correct, the snailmail price rises will have an effect on ecommerce operations.

Report: UK Mail Prices to Rise Significantly [telegraph.co.uk]
The national mail organisation said it is hoping to increase second class stamps by 53 per cent from 36p to 55p, and insisted that the increase was still “affordable” for “vulnerable groups”.


We're due to hear the new rates any day now.

 

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 6:47 pm on Mar 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

This really affects businesses that sell light items but that are too large to fit in "large letter" post. To international people that is anything over about one inch tall, including packaging.

It seems shocking that if a business sells items that weight 150 grams and send 20 a day that the cost of postage has gone up from about £2,000 per year to almost £10,000. Now it looks like they want another 53% (estimated) which takes the cost to over £15,000 a year.

That is an increase of 750% in about 6 or 7 years. Still, they manage to make a loss. So where is the money going?

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 7:00 pm on Mar 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

>So where is the money going?

In part, the pension fund.

Additionally, as i understand it, they were delivering almost 100 Million items a day, and that has now tailed off significantly. I couldn't find any stats to back that up other than a percentage decline in volumes of over 6% in the last year.

According to our postman, he's delivering more packages than previous years, so ecommerce must be taking up the slack.

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 3:48 pm on Mar 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

Our post route has completely changed - we used to get letters from our postman, and small packages from a later van. Now the postman has a little cart to push and he delivers everything except large / heavy items. Now we are lucky to see him before 3pm!

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 5:24 pm on Mar 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

Could there are fewer postmen


According to our postman, he's delivering more packages than previous years, so ecommerce must be taking up the slack.

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 8:43 pm on Mar 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

Same thing with the US system. Separate people are a thing of the past. I think they have maybe one separate driver for the station, just for the big empty box deliveries. My guy is like 70 years old with a limp. I have to carry all the stuff down to the truck for him each day. They told me they expect them to be done by 4 on Saturdays... They do not want any overtime paid out. I notice there's days where they basically just do ad delivery. Pretty sure there's days they hold back mail to save money, but of course they would never admit that.

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 9:15 pm on Mar 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

>>Could there are fewer postmen

that's true, according to my postman, from his sorting office there are now less 'walks' (seemingly the technical term) than previously and each one is longer. They also get extra bags dropped off while they are en route by a van driver.

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 12:09 am on Mar 23, 2012 (gmt 0)

Do they even still use the old brown relay boxes? I thought those were pretty much a relic. I still see them here and there, but they don't looked used. But I do recall somebody saying they still do a lot of that in Manhattan.

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 6:03 pm on Mar 26, 2012 (gmt 0)

Royal Mail business rates have been available for a while. The general postal rates are still not published which is getting worrying for any business that does not have the volume or frequency required for a contract or to justify a franking machine.

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 9:22 pm on Mar 26, 2012 (gmt 0)

When you add the courier companies to the postman, there are a lot of people and vans rivin gup and down our roads, this must be costing us all more.

The Post Offices (World-wide) need to realise that as they are now more dependent on parcels (on line sales) they need to stop putting the prices up, as it makes online selling less competitive.

If the postage costs more than the product !

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 9:04 am on Mar 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

New mail prices to be announced at 11am today.

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 11:46 am on Mar 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

Wonder if the courier companies will see this as an opporunity to win more smaller parcels, or an opportunity to bump their rates as well?!

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 4:46 pm on Mar 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

By comparison with the headline rates the increases for large letters and packets (at least for the sizes that I send) don't look too painful until you realise that they are still over 11%.

If you don't have the volumes for a contract the rates still look competitive.

PCInk

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 5:12 pm on Mar 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

Since First Class packet rate between 501-750g has gone down from £3.05 to £2.70, I need to find a way use this rate more often!

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 8:22 pm on Mar 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

Yeah but 100g has increased from £1.58 to £2.70, so that's a whacking price increase for me that I really can't avoid passing on. :(

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 8:42 pm on Mar 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

>>Wonder if the courier companies will see this as an opporunity to win more smaller parcels, or an opportunity to bump their rates as well?!

doubt it, royal mail is still the best value ... but yes this rise is going to cost me - i charge flat rate shipping (in UK) and i'm not going to increase the price

Digmen1

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Msg#: 4431808 posted 8:50 pm on Mar 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

That increase sucks, and I imagine that it will be passed on all round the world.

It will slow online sales.

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