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Java-based shopping carts - bad idea?
Does anyone really turn off Java any more?

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Msg#: 4017342 posted 4:36 am on Nov 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hello -

I have dove into migrating to eCommerce Templates from an old Miva site, and am really liking the open, flexible environment. But, what about the issue of Java? Should I be concerned that nothing works if browsers have java turned off?

When I look at the old logs, it looks like 5% of visitors have browsers that don't support Java (or they have turned it off) - which account for 2.5% of sales. Not a huge amount, but not something I want to be responsible for losing.

In your experience, are these people that would just turn Java on to complete the transactions... or maybe this is google analytics error...

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Don



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Msg#: 4017342 posted 8:35 am on Nov 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Perhaps you mean Javascript rather than Java?


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Msg#: 4017342 posted 3:51 pm on Nov 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

ah ha! exactly -


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Msg#: 4017342 posted 5:00 pm on Nov 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

The Old Navy site is entirely Java-based (thx ssgumby) but Javascript dependent - no. Bad idea.

It's okay to have Javascript used for enhancement, but not if it fails to function without it. This is, well, pretty much insane. It needs to work with and without JS enabled, and if an "off the shelf" carts fails without it, this makes it very bad. I am a coder and don't follow all the nuances of free/open source/proprietary software, I roll my own for my clients.

It's not just your users. Search engines don't execute Javascript either - although, rumor is, that is changing. Even so, still better not to.

I would consider one point about Google Analytics.

It is added to your site via a bit of Javascript code, correct?

So if visitors come to your site with JS disabled, it won't execute; how accurate can that be? (I could be wrong on this one, they may track it just by the request for the "urchin")

I'm not knocking G.A. Always supplement stats with as many stats packages you can, as all of them seem to conflict a little bit. You should have a stats program offered by your hosting service, directly on the server.

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