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I Bought an Affiliate Site and Now I'm Screwed
website with no easy way to bring traffic
iFixSolutions

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 7:38 pm on Mar 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

I might be posting this in the wrong section so forgive me if that's the case. I'm trying my hand at ecommerce for the first time and in my excitement jumped into an affiliate program.

All and all it seems like a good deal.. good commissions, good attractive templates, etc. I did some simple SEO stuff to it (i.e. adding meta tags, submitting to the search engines) changes the prices of the meds on the site to be competitive, basically slapping lipstick on the pig.

Then I wanted to drive some traffic to it and it was recommended (by the guy I bought the domain from) that I purchase some CPC traffic. First he recommended Enhance, but after doing some research around here decided not to go with them and to look at Google and Overture (now yahoo). Yahoo let me go as far as to add all my KW's and create the ad but then declined me - and Google pretty much stopped me at the word 'widget' and told me that I needed to provide a valid widget ID.

So I'm left with a pretty site and no traffic. I'm really new to all of this and am wondering what i can do now. How do you market a site in a sea of similar sites without being able to buy some legitimate traffic? I know very little about link exchange of placing banners, and I'm wondering if that's even worth it. is it?

suggestions? help? please :)

[edited by: lorax at 11:32 pm (utc) on Mar. 9, 2007]
[edit reason] widgetized [/edit]

 

Corey Bryant

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 10:28 pm on Mar 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Unfortunately these types of sites are usually considered spam. I am sure you get at least one email a day telling you about Viagra, Ultram, Zanax, Zantac, etc.

Honestly, I would say cut your losses now and find something else. A lot of these sites are reported for spamming at some point and usually are not worth the time and trouble

-Corey

Marcia

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Msg#: 3276916 posted 10:52 pm on Mar 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

There was a big FTC crackdown on online pharmacies a while back, nnd they're now seriously regulated and have to meet certain stringent requirements and recognized certifications.

jsinger

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Msg#: 3276916 posted 8:28 am on Mar 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

Curious. What did you pay for this site?

Essex_boy

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Msg#: 3276916 posted 10:59 am on Mar 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

I hope for your sake it wasnt a lot, youd be better off just hanging around this site for a while for advice on whats hot and whats not.

iFixSolutions

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 5:38 pm on Mar 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

I ended up paying $600 dollars. ok ok.. I know I was taken.. you don't have to tell me that. It's free to be an affiliate, and the site design is obviously included with being an affiliate. I could have paid for some hosting and done this whole thing myself for a couple bucks. BUT i really do like the url. I'm definitely sitting on it.

I've been doing a lot of research since the big ppc companies denied me and I've pretty much resigned myself to holding the url and not bother to dropping any money into ppc. Now I'm just wondering what I should put in it's place. i kinda think the url is that catchy (i'm like a proud father thinking his kid can dance)

ispy



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 8:37 pm on Mar 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

What do you mean by "a valid widget ID"?

Google allows affiliate sites in Adwords it just needs to be labeled affiliate. I don't see any reason why you should not be competing with everyone else if you are supplying a desired and legal product and are not involved with spam.

ispy



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 1:02 am on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Is PayPal a widget? or am I getting sidetracked here?

lorax

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Msg#: 3276916 posted 11:37 am on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

PayPal is not the widget. The market sector and it's products are what have been widgetized. This particular market sector is problematic and we're not going to allow discussion of it here. Thanks.

BradleyT

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 12:06 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Have you tried "lower end" PPC companies like 7search or goclick?

iFixSolutions

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 2:22 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

actually, no. everything i've read on WW seems to say that the little guys are notorious for pop-unders and other shady practices - that i'd basically be throwing my money away. i'm kind of weary. if you know of any "little guys" that have a good reputation i'd love to hear names. send me a sticky mail if you could. but on a side note Enhance may actually work with me still, too.

on friday of last week i had a rep from enhance call me after my account was locked out "for security purposes." i was little surprised at the lock out considering i did nothing besides create my keywords as phrases and there was nothing shady about them. (mind you, this is before i knew anything about the problems this industry is having) but when trying to log in i was prompted to call their customer service - which i did. so this rep that i started talking to ended up emailing me me an identification verification form which i had to fax back with a copy of my ID, both sides of a CC, and an agreement to pay an additional deposit "for at least $50."

so i did all this and we are supposed to talk again today to get my account turned back on. the way she worded it this was a standard practice on their part. "it happens all the time." whatever.

[edited by: iFixSolutions at 2:23 pm (utc) on Mar. 13, 2007]

iFixSolutions

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 4:00 pm on Mar 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

i was reading more posts in ecommerce and came across the posting about Quigo. has anyone done any work with them?

CatLady

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Msg#: 3276916 posted 3:46 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm wondering if you might be better served by doing a little bit more SEO work on it to get more organic traffic down the road. A few things like optimized Title, H1 & H2 tags, sprinkling the content with a few linked keywords, a good sitemap, and a few relevant link exchange partners. It may take some time to see any results, but may be worth the effort.

paladin

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 4:11 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

i was reading more posts in ecommerce and came across the posting about Quigo. has anyone done any work with them?

I'm doing a test with them now. So far I am not overly impressed

iFixSolutions

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 4:17 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

yeah, the organic SEO thing i'm just starting to get into. i bought a seo book the other day and i'm just waiting for it to show up. and actually, we've been talking about all of this over in the affiliate program as well. you were actually quoted over there too cat :)

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jsinger

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Msg#: 3276916 posted 4:53 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

All the SEO in the world isn't going to get you into the top 1,000 in key drug terms. Viagra, for example, is listed in Google 67 million times!

Maybe you could specialize in something rarer like monkeypox which only comes up about 600,000 times.
"Monkeypox is a rare viral disease that is found mostly in the rainforest countries "

tke71709

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Msg#: 3276916 posted 6:33 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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What do you mean by "a valid widget ID"?
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If you want to advertise drugs on adwords you have to have a valid provider id (provided by the gov't I would assume) that proves you're a pharmacy.

iFixSolutions

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 9:22 pm on Mar 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

jsinger.. i'm not even going to bother SEO'ing that site. it's all php anyway with a direct feed from the company so i can't really edit much anyway.

and tke, google and yahoo will send you to <snip> where you have to pay $295 to get checked out, but that will do you no good if the company you're affiliating for doesn't have an ID of their own - like the company I was initially hooked up with. after talking with the <snip> people (seriously ended up with the VP on the phone.. he was cool.) i found that there was only ONE company that was exempt from the rules that make up what a "valid" company is.

(here's the rules; they're really quite simple:

1. you can't accept online consultations as a valid reason to get a prescription.

2. you can only accept faxed in prescriptions from a licensed physician.

basically you can't be a one stop shop - diagnosing, prescribing, and filling.)

the one company that is exempt can accept online consultation and advertise on yahoo and google. i found out who they are and they only deal with "male issues;" if you catch my drift. they don't do pain killers, allergies, etc, like the "spam" shops do.

basically this business is pretty shady, not really worth the time, but might be lucrative once you figured out how to do it without getting banned from everywhere. personal opinion.. it's not worth it.

[edited by: lorax at 10:29 pm (utc) on Mar. 15, 2007]
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supercars



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 10:16 pm on Mar 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

let's start from square 1

Bricks-and-mortar or e-commerce, you need to have a product or service that someone wants, that is SOMEHOW unique. there is no magic in being online. the b-school texts call this having a "proprietary" product or service

You write a business plan w an e-commerce component
You validate the assumptions of your plan
You launch your business
If the business is valid, the e-commerce program, IF well executed, should work....

David

[edited by: encyclo at 10:18 pm (utc) on Mar. 24, 2007]
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Craigv

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 9:34 pm on Mar 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Oops, didn't see the post a few spots above mine.

Anyways, the industry is only shady if you are operating your site half assed. There are plenty of safe, secure, and good pharmacy companies out there.

The only reason the indsutry is labelled as shady is because the gov't and big pharma want you to believe that, b/c they are losing money.

vincevincevince

WebmasterWorld Senior Member vincevincevince us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3276916 posted 12:54 am on Mar 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

1) Go and do what you were told in the first place and use Enhance
2) Look into SEO for the natural SERPs, direct adverts on related sites, text link adverts, etc.

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