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What's my motivation?
This is becoming a full time job- So what!

 5:10 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I want to give as much info as possible here so skim over my fluff if you need to. There's some ranting but a question does exist.

Working for a small company has its perks! The boss doesn't really complain if I'm late so I basically make my own hours.
My job is a mixed bag of computer and light manufacturing. A graphic designer who gets pulled off every now and again to cut business cards, or package something or print t-shirts. A jack of all trades- master of none.

But now I'm a webmaster?
In a nutshell, this is how my job has developed.
Boss wants product up on www,
Boss gets a friend to set up a Y store (so now I have to build a site using the Y store editor! oh what fun awaits me!)
Boss gets google adwords
I learn how to use the tools and build the site,
I also learn adwords and get great CTRs
Too much money being spent so adwords gets cut in half,
Traffic from google is also cut in half,
Conversions suck- always did, still do.

Here's the deal though. My job still pays me the same and even if the site fails. And why should I even care! This has been the bane of my existance. Currently going back and forth with Yahoo with blog issues, and they still appear to have no idea what I'm inquiring about! (I would LOVE to post the emails here, can I do that?)

I don't like my job anymore, and since the site does nothing but cost him money- I can't ask for a raise (rise to you UK peeps).
Is there anyone out there in my boat? As a store OWNER there's a whole lot to get all excited about and work towards. I have tried to make the site work but have run out of inspiration. There simply is nothing in it for me.

How do others in my position find inspiration? Should I be under some kind of contract that offers me a percentage? That would make me try harder for sure, but how does one go about that process when you may be too busy cutting paper products?



 5:24 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Consider working on your own sites in your spare time and if you make enough eventually you can quit your salaried job and be the master of your domains. :)


 8:26 pm on Aug 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

may I suggest why don't you take the lead and redesign a site that is easier to work will add to your work experience and knowledge base and enjoy your work.

I would also learn to do a better job on the ppc get away from the high traffic words too much junk going on and spend some time learning instead of poor me.

Has it occured to you he may not be to happy with you as well?


 1:46 am on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

To me it sounds like you are being paid to go to school.
I am sure there are a lot of people that would love to be in your current situation.
If I was you, I would make the best of what has been laid at your feet.


 2:47 pm on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Everybody back off for a second- and yet, thanks for putting me in check at the same time.

A few weeks ago I started reading up on how to communicate effectively. I guess it's time to go back and pick up where I left off. There's a reason I started the reading in the first place- I need it very badly.

I now realize that this isn't my bag. I'm only here because my job as a "Sign maker" (sawing, painting, lettering, LABOR) developed into this, and my wage has not changed one bit. My goal is not to bust my Arse to make somebody else rich.

Thanks for the inspiration everybody!


 7:45 pm on Aug 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

"I now realize that this isn't my bag. I'm only here because my job as a "Sign maker" (sawing, painting, lettering, LABOR) developed into this, and my wage has not changed one bit. My goal is not to bust my Arse to make somebody else rich."

I have an old saying "if you are afraid of advancement go the back of the line someone else will step up"

Have you ever thought hmmm making signs lets see maybe there is a future in it or

WWW what if I learn this trade or skill and am willing to work, learn, listen were can I benifit from this.

Have you ever figured if I help someone make allot of money I just may learn how to do it myself...

But on the other hand if I have an attitude I usually end up closing a door God has opened.

I myself would rethink my position www or sign maker seems a no brainer to me.

Hope we have helped by pointing out your inability to really see your boss is helping you not hindering you...Anytime a new door opens there is a reason behind it..I would discover that reason before I closed the door.


 9:41 pm on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

use your skills to get a new job...you could probalby get a 20% pay raise by doing so. if you know seo and ppc, many companies are bringing those skillsets inhouse now.


 10:04 pm on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

many companies are bringing those skillsets inhouse now.

True, but not many companies are interested in the following attitude:
My goal is not to bust my Arse to make somebody else rich.

Although you mentioned before about having problems communicating efectively, I would suspect that your attitude towards your work and boss is actually communicated quite well to everyone around you.

If you hate your job so much, then quit and bust your arse to make yourself rich. If that's not an option, then I suggest you change your opinion of your job. (In fact, you might be amazed at what an attitude adjustment will do for your stress level, your situation, and maybe even your salary.)


 9:31 pm on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

It does not sound like your boss would dole out even if the site were wildly successful, or this would be your inspiration to work on the site. If you enjoy webwork then try building your own ecommerce store. If not, I would ask the boss to agree on some sort of commission on all sales before you make site take off if you can, especially if you don't think he will share the rewards. Otherwise, you may be sitting there when the sales start rolling in at your same pay rate watching your boss become a big wig.


 9:13 am on Aug 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Since it is obvious from your posts that you don't like ecommerce, tell your boss that you won't do it anymore and to get someone who IS interested in doing it.

ecommerce sites start as one sale, then another then SEO optimising, than more visitors, then more sales.

An ecommerce site needs to be nurtured, tweek it here and there. If you are not ready to do that, quit doing it.

The thing that is really not obvious in early ecommerce is that
a change today might increase sales in six months.
a change today may mean no sales for a month until you determine what happened.

My advice, gardening is not for everyone. Ecommerce is similar to gardening. You have to want to do it.

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