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Getting name after deleted - quickest method
how best to pick up a name before the backorder tools?
stuartc1

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4468083 posted 6:42 pm on Jun 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I've bought my fair share of domain names over the years, both new and from others. But I've never attempted to pick-up one which is about to be deleted and released back into the pool.

It's actually hard to find good information on this subject (at least I never got very far). The places which offer some information are usually affiliated with back-order services, so don't explain much.

I understand that when a domain goes into the deleting status, that it will be made available to purchase after 5 days.

My questions:

I do not trust back-ordering services for a simple reason. They can easily grab and hold the name to ransom (i.e. create a bidding war). This is fine if you have a lot of cash available, but that's not me.

I would like to know how to best approach trying to grab the name. My thoughts are this.

Wait to a few seconds after midnight when the domain is due back on the market and use a registrar to try and buy it before the back-ordering systems get it.

Will this work? can anyone suggest a better method?

 

Hoople

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4468083 posted 8:28 pm on Jun 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Short answer - if the domain seems valuable to the back-order service it will likely get scooped up by them, forcing you to pay their price.

It's actually hard to find good information on this subject

Expired Domain Deletion Policy [icann.org]

Registrars have individual operating policies within the 45 day post registration period. Example [support.godaddy.com ]

stuartc1

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4468083 posted 9:41 pm on Jun 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your reply Hoople. The icann page was interesting, but still didn't really explain how the "pendingDelete" state works.

I'd like to know at what time a "pendingDelete" domain becomes available, and if some registrars are quicker than others at picking-up that it's available to register again.

Am I wasting my time sitting up all night hitting refresh?

Webwork

WebmasterWorld Administrator webwork us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4468083 posted 4:49 am on Jun 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

Am I wasting my time sitting up all night hitting refresh?


Highly likely you will.

Domain drops once occured at sortof predictable times (.com ~2:00 P.M.) but it's been awhile since I tested/investigated drop times.

Most expiring domains don't drop. Instead they go to auction without ever "dropping".

rocker

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4468083 posted 11:59 am on Jun 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

I do not trust back-ordering services for a simple reason. They can easily grab and hold the name to ransom (i.e. create a bidding war).

I do not think that would happen. If you are the only one back ordering the domain name, the registrar is not going to hold it ransom hoping someone else will also want it.

Professional domainers know when every domain they are interested in is deleting and they already have a back order on it.

stuartc1

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4468083 posted 12:32 pm on Jun 22, 2012 (gmt 0)

A few years back one of the big backordering firms had a lawsuit filed against them. The claim was they were faking bids to increase the costs or backordered domains. Not sure of the outcome, but it's made me a little sceptical.

Anyway, I've given the backordering system a go to see what happens.

Thanks for your input!

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