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New TLDs Announced
Leosghost

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 1:29 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)


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The list is out..
[newgtlds.icann.org...]

BBC story on the issue..
[bbc.com...]

The full list of submissions for new internet address endings has been published by the organisation co-ordinating the expansion.
The BBC was among the applicants, applying for .bbc as an alternative to .co.uk and .com.
Samsung - which had objected to the process - has taken part, applying for both .samsung and its equivalent in the Korean alphabet.

However, Coca-Cola and the snack manufacturer Kellogg, which also signed a petition in protest, have abstained.

By contrast Google has applied for dozens of the generic top-level domain (gTLD) name strings.

[edited by: engine at 1:46 pm (utc) on Jun 13, 2012]
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Webwork

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 1:57 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

HOW Charleston Road Registry Inc. US - - Sarah Falvey tas-contact11@google.com


How? Really, Google?

Wonder what eHow thinks and what Google gleaned from all the eHow data?

Must be money in "how"?

Dunno. Wait and see how how works.

So, "Who's on first?"

Webwork

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 2:00 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Ooooo . . Lot's of applications for running a .Inc gTLD registry.

Guess who's gunning to force . . coerce . . maximize the opportunity to profit based upon defensive registrations?

There's a few other proposed gTLDs that look like they might profit . . benefit . . from a similar model.

I wonder how long this model will work?

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 2:05 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

The TLD fight over .car and .cars, may well require a very big bucket of popcorn :)

rocker

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 2:39 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

What! no .GOD? :)

mslina2002

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 2:53 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

The ones registered by Goog should give us a hint what vertical they are interested in for monetization (plus for regular internal use) ... Watch your back (!)

Just GUESSING based on TLD on the use or what it stands for:

Home Related Niche:
MOM, DAD, LOVE, FAMILY, BABY, KID, DOG, HOME, PET, DIY

Credentials:
CPA, DDS, DEV, MBA, MED, PHD, PROF, VIP, ESQ

Travel or Product Niche:
CAR, DRIVE, FLY,

Entertainment Niche:
EAT, FILM, FOO, FUN, GAME, LOL, MOV, MOVIE, MUSIC, PLAY, SHOW, TOUR, TUBE, YOUTUBE

What! no .GOD?


No, but G has a .LOL

Next update will be announced at www.panda.lol

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 3:06 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Interesting the number of times that Google and Amazon are trying for the same TLDs..and what the TLDs are..( search and talk etc ) and that Microsoft didn't try for either of those two ( nor skype )..MS appear to have either not thought of those..or could not be bothered..

Which speaks volumes about Microsoft IMO..

Panthro



 
Msg#: 4464930 posted 3:28 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

I'm guessing more authority weight will be given to these premium TLDs in the SERPs.

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 3:37 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Covered [webmasterworld.com...]

whateveristhesubjectofyourdomain.whatevergoogleregistered

coming to a serp near everyone..in the not very distant future..

ps..with Google trust badges..

Kufu

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 3:58 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

No .SEO? Odd!

superclown2

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 4:08 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

This should severely impact the EMD domain name speculators. What a shame.

randle

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 4:15 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

They should have made acquiring these much more expensive - 185k acquisition fee and 25k/year is monopoly money for a lot of these guys. Even if the acquisition cost is ultimately much higher needed to win them in an auction, its to low.

The use of these should be financially discouraged, not encouraged.

aleksl



 
Msg#: 4464930 posted 5:26 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

In US, donuts will eat you.

...ok, I am referring to donuts.co application for 300 TLDs.

aleksl



 
Msg#: 4464930 posted 5:31 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Panthro: I'm guessing more authority weight will be given to these premium TLDs in the SERPs.


WHY? What is a specific reason you give more authority to KW.itoldyouso vs. a strong and long running KW.com?

Really , I don't see any reason, unless of course .itoldyouso belongs to someone who can fudge the algo.

Swanson

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 6:51 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

aleksl, I think Panthro was referring to the TLDs that Google itself was going for.

Sgt_Kickaxe

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 7:15 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

I noticed that .HOW too Webwork, and also .APP by Google. Seems the search engine wants to become a content publisher.

.baby, .blog ?

.ARE, .BOO ?

.buy I'd expect from the worlds new biggest affiliate I suppose.

.ads I get but the rest, what's Google up to? /shrug

mcneely

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 8:39 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Next update will be announced at www.panda.lol


.YOU .GOTTA .LOVE .THIS .ONE


.HEH

aleksl



 
Msg#: 4464930 posted 8:39 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Swanson, I got it, it was a sarcasm. "fugde the algo" in their own favor, that's all Google does these days.

The amount of domains Google's going for is a) because they're cheap, and b) to cover up their true intent. It is the simplest thing in the book.

I don't think a Search Engine should be allowed to own generic TLDs. PERIOD.

Webwork

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 9:03 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

I don't think a Search Engine should be allowed to own generic TLDs. PERIOD.


Yes, but what if G's plan is to provide all their new sTLDs to consumers "for free", even freer when a new G sTLD is deployed to G's free .cloud hosting?

By adding control of the name space G is just vertically integrating . . everything that's left to assimilate . . err, integrate: search, answers in search, images of sites before you visit, affiliate programs, affiliate programs without affiliates (think airfare, hotels, credit card comparisions), "free website hosting" (~partnerships), content/company "pages" (who needs a website?), dark fiber, cell/mobile infrastructure, apps, data, payment system, intellectual property in the aftermarket, life, the universe and everything.

Why does the Twilight Zone episode, featuring a book entitled "To Serve Man" [en.wikipedia.org ], come to mind? Curious.

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 9:20 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Precisely what I've been thinking/ saying ( mostly falls upon stony ground though ) for a long time now WW ;-) noted here a long time ago that CHOAM was taken or Google would have registered it..

They have now decided it is not necessary to do so..there are other ways to achieve CHOAM or Guild status..

"The Last Question and "The Battle of Forever" also come to mind..

Webwork

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 9:37 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Google Domains 101:
.ads .and .android .app .are
.baby.blog.boo.book.buy
.cal.car.channel.chrome.cloud.corp.cpa
.dad.day.dclk.dds.dev.diy.docs.dog.dot.drive
.earth.eat.esq.est
.family.film.fly.foo.free.fun.fyi
.game.gbiz.gle.gmail.gmbh.goo.goog.google.guge
.hangout.here.home.how
.inc.ing
.kid
.live.llc.llp.lol.love
.mail.map.mba.med.meme.mom.moto.mov.movie.music
.new.nexus
.page.pet.phd.play.plus.prod.prof
.rsvp
.search.shop.show.site.soy.spot.srl.store
.talk.team.tech.tour.tube
.vip
.web.wow
.you.youtube
.zip

[edited by: Webwork at 12:17 pm (utc) on Jun 14, 2012]

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 9:48 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Not forgetting .みんな and .グーグル and .谷歌

which probably won't show up correctly for those on windows who are using "restrictive" chars..or the board here will "munge them" ..



Presumably according to ICANN anyone ( not just other registrant hopefuls )..ie; anyone of us websmasters..or all of us even ;-) could "object" under the ICANN procedures to this attempted virtual land grab by the biggest search engine under "conflict of interest" or "whatever"..

May as well go down fighting as independent webmasters rather than just acquiesce to being gorged into digital serfdom in the future..

artek

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 11:17 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

Webwork I think G is buying these domains for ďjust in caseĒ purpose and will find limited use for them.

Letís look at this from different point of view.

I noticed while ago that I would always type in the wikipedia ( .COM ) extension instead of the correct one wikipedia ( .ORG ).

Then I thought:
The fact is that ninety nine percent of the useful or famous domains use and own ( .COM ) extension so it is a natural process for me not to use other extensions.

After that I asked a bunch of my friends what domain extensions are available out there. Everyone knew ( .COM ), about half knew ( .net, .org ) and country specific extensions, few knew ( .info ) rest didnít know any or didnít care because they used ( .COM ).

The reality is that almost everyone who can access web knows what ( .COM ) is and will use it first to find domain. Very few people will type other extensions.

If you own ( .COM ) and countries of interest specific extensions you are about done where direct type-in traffic to your website is concern.

The new ( .BOLONEY ) extensions will not have type-in visitors and will be as useless as .tv, .mobi, .biz, .x...x, .asia, .cc, .jobs, to name just few.

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 11:33 pm on Jun 13, 2012 (gmt 0)

It isn't about "type ins"..it is about Google using these and then favouring in serps the domains which are on them ( like they do now with "their own stuff", above the fold )..so eventually we will all have to be on them....on Google's "land"..they'll be hosting our domains..our content..and letting us run adsense on it like sharecroppers..or serfs..

artek

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 12:40 am on Jun 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

I think the public opinion tide is turning against G for the excessive spying so new extensions may not help them much and whole thing as you noticed already is considered as another G attempt to spy and control web even more.

It will take many years to change internet domain extension habits if it is possible at all and G may not have time to do that. The G is not perceived as white knight any more so things can go bad fast for them.

matrix_jan



 
Msg#: 4464930 posted 5:49 am on Jun 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

Ok I get it for brand names and few subjects.. news.guardian, football.guardian, x5.bmw, junk.kia, 1984.book
I'm starting to love it in fact, but only for big names and only for the usability and the look.

But I don't get how .XYZ, .WTF, .WEBS, etc. (.ETC in this case) are going to be "loved" and used. These are going to be lost just like .co and other similar .com-wannabes. So the only winners are going to be big fat brands and trending subjects. <==period

creeking

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 7:15 am on Jun 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

no one wanted .SNOW ?


I wonder if someone will try putting adsense ads (pay-per-click) on a .CLICK website.

www.please.click


:)


{edit}.click TLD does not exist, so I hope this humor is rules-ok.{/edit}

atlrus

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 3:22 pm on Jun 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

These are going to be lost just like .co and other similar .com-wannabes. So the only winners are going to be big fat brands and trending subjects. <==period


I disagree.

While there is just small "brand-ability" in .co, it's ranking the same as .com in Google and better than both .net and .org

If Google decides to give their new TLD (let's say .bull) the same treatment as .com - it will be a domain buying frenzy, mostly from websites relying on traffic from the SE, as opposed to domain name type-in visitors.

matrix_jan



 
Msg#: 4464930 posted 12:30 am on Jun 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

@atlrus

I'm not talking about ranking. I meant "loved" by users not google. Ask an average surfer to name a .co domain. Then try asking for .net and .org and then .com... And that's when you'll get my point. Eveybody's gonna remember baseball.espn but no one is going to remember bluewidgets.webs.

Cheers

Leosghost

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Msg#: 4464930 posted 12:44 am on Jun 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

I have no idea why you think I ( or anyone else outside of the USA ) would remember baseball.espn ( baseball I know ..it is rounders ..a girls game when I was at school ..but in the USA is played by overweight men )..and espn ? ..there you got me ..and about 6.7 billion others on the planet..short for Spanish maybe ?

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