| 4:56 am on Sep 2, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Back rooms in a dangerous city where one cautiously enters darkened rooms filled with pungent tobacco smoke, the scent of gin, and listen to eerie music in the background---and more fun if there are dancing girls somewhere within vision. :)
Answer to Q3: No. What makes Webmasterworld work is the non-commercial gathering of like-minded kiddies. ... rephrase: My answer to Q3!
| 4:41 pm on Sep 2, 2009 (gmt 0)|
If the domains aren't ones that are busy selling themselves (stimulating unsolicited offers) then I'd suggest you post them everywhere you can.
No "place" really sells a domain. Sedo lists millions of domains but only a tiny tiny fraction of those listed actually sell.
You can even attempt to pitch the domains direct to likely endusers but that's a hard slog with a very very very low success rate UNLESS you hold a truly valuable domain (Money.com, Stock.com, etc.) AND you have "right priced" the odmain you are attempting to sell.
| 7:11 pm on Sep 2, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Ive tried that already. It didnt work ;)
|Back rooms in a dangerous city |
good point. Im at a point where im willing to get rid of the domain but since I paid for the registration for couple years im a bit hesitant to cancel the registration. Its like having a hard time to sell stocks/shares that go down and you know arent coming back up anytime soon.
|No "place" really sells a domain. |
I will probably end of giving them away to friends rather than just deleting them.
| 4:43 am on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I see a long line of friends lining up for the generosity of dailypress... (sorry, no spooky mood music available with eerie laugh)
| 10:09 am on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|since I paid for the registration for couple years im a bit hesitant to cancel the registration |
Why cancel the registration when it's already paid for? Am I missing something?
| 10:36 am on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I do like your style brother...
| 10:54 am on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
wyweb... don't make my head spin! We need to find a street corner to sell off those unwanted (and getting too expensive to keep under care and feed) domains! They want to be free! (At a price, of course) and they should be free to breathe and ... aw, darn it, I'm getting too cute with this primarily (no disrespect to OP in this regard) that we all speculate in domains in hopes of the holy grail and sadly... only enrich the registrars when we give up.
Thar ain't no gold in those hills, pilgrims! (Except for the occasional nugget...and those are few and far between!)
| 11:55 am on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Been in a few of those back rooms myself tangor. More of them than I care to admit. While I have fond memories, albeit somewhat vague, of the tobacco smoke and gin, the subject of selling domain names was not often brought up. Or maybe it was and I just missed it. Your point is taken though. I needed a good laugh this morning to get this day kicked off and you sir, have provided it.
I would have said sedo. That's about the only place I know of and the only reason I know about it at all is because I've heard other people mention it. I had several domains listed there for years and never even got a nibble, though my asking price was ridiculously low. Finally I just parked them and put up a big "this domain is for sale" sign. Within a month I had 2 of them sold.
But the back rooms... ahhh you're bringing back memories...
| 2:13 am on Sep 6, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Just tired of seeing so many names in my list, and since I havent done much with a lot of them I think canceling is the way to go. I can omit bad memories that way! ;)
|Why cancel the registration when it's already paid for? Am I missing something? |
I dont have as much as many people here, but ~50 domains renewals costs ~$1,000/year (9.99 domain + 9.99 privacy) never mind the thousands I had to pay for the auctioned ones that I think renewal for those costs a bit more like $45 or something.
| 7:42 am on Sep 7, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|since I paid for the registration for couple years im a bit hesitant to cancel the registration |
Why not just put some relevant content and adsense on it. At least you could get something back - not big money, but it may cover your regeistration fees.
Only keep in mind that you don't renew the domain again when it expires :)
| 11:21 pm on Sep 9, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|Why not just put some relevant content and adsense on it. At least you could get something back - not big money, but it may cover your registration fees. |
Cause I would probably have to send traffic from my other sites if im not going to spend time developing them. In that case, it wouldnt really be worth it unless im making very high CPC.
I already did that and got banned last week! The past 2 weeks have been horrible. So basically I did what you mentioned for a while and sent traffic from my other sites. The site was making a decent amount/month. on average $1 dollar clicks for several months and even years with decent CTR. The site however never received organic traffic but Google was fine with that.
Then I noticed I had a domain that I had paid for 10 years! (again stupid move but it was a while ago back in college when I got excited about the whole domain business). So I made a duplicate of the site and uploaded it about a month ago. Just before making the payment I received an email from Google that my account was banned for not following the rules. I dont know what I was thinking when I made a duplicate of the site just so I use my freakin $10/year domain! ;(
we have a similar expression back home: "to bend over for a penny to drop a dollar from behind"..uuuuuukh......im getting a bit pissed again writing this and reminding myself of what stupid mistake I made!
Also, what bothered me, is that they didnt pay my last months check!
I had already spent the money I never received! ;) again, another lesson I learned the hard way!
anyway, I didnt do anything illegal, so I wrote back and told them that ive been a loyal customer for 4-5 years now and to give me a break! havent heard back yet, so whatever! lifes too short to stress out over Google! I still plan to expand my sites without any ads for a while until I sign up with Yahoo or some other company. And maybe ill sell direct ads. I definitely have the best connection in my own field.
Anyway, in FL on business. I decided to put away the web business for a few days and just walk on the beach and its been great so far!
The reason I thoroughly explained it here is cause im pretty loyal to this forum and its members. And since ive learned a lot here, I would like to teach what ever I know even if its not much! ;)
So in short: DO NOT MAKE DUPLICATE SITES! I did it ONCE for only 2-3 weeks and had my whole Google account banned!
+ just be careful with your account. Dont do anything stupid cause it does suck to have your account taken away! :(
and as of last week I learned the hard way that: Google is VERY strict on duplicate content! even if its a 3-4 page website! I wasnt even getting google traffic and got penalized!
I hate Google as of last week! ;)
funny that you mention that. I wish I knew that last year. the day they charged my credit card I called my registrar insisting that I dont want to renew them. but oh well there was nothing they could do, or in other words they didnt want to give my money back.
|Only keep in mind that you don't renew the domain again when it expires :) |
my domains expire in Jan so ill probably delete them in Nov or Dec.
I had gotten too excited about the domain business years ago and decided to purchase many versions of example.com/ examples.com/ TheExample.com and ...
anyway, i rather focus on my main 3 sites all over 1000 pages. (1 of them still in progress) :)
the domain business reminds me of what Warren Buffet had once said about stocks: to buy and sell during this recession >>
If youre not in this game, dont play it. Referring to people who wanted to make a few bucks here and there with the volatile market.
So I guess im out! :)
| 1:28 pm on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|So in short: DO NOT MAKE DUPLICATE SITES! I did it ONCE for only 2-3 weeks and had my whole Google account banned! |
Did they actually state that it was a duplicate content issue since I would very much doubt that would be the reason.
All that should happen with duplicate content is that it is basically sent to the back of the SERPs with the original content having more significance.
It may be possible to dilute the original site but a ban from AdSense for duplication is most unlikely.
| 2:42 pm on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)|
were getting a bit off topic but let me fully explain to close this discussion.
Good point HusyPup:
I think the high CPC was the main cause:
"While going through our records recently, we found that your AdSense
account has posed a significant risk to our AdWords advertisers."
but the duplicate content raised the flag!
Whats interesting is that I had a site when I first started the business that had info on oil prices and also had the front page full of links to Google's currency converter. I had listed all currencies and linked it to google. i.e. if you google dollar to pound youll see what I mean.
Anyway, the site was built mostly for my own use. I had google ads on it for 5 years with no trouble. Then when I had an agreement with some other site to send traffic for couple months I noticed that particular site generated 1-2 dollar clicks since it was mostly on stocks/bonds and currency conversions. The CTR wasnt that high either. A few months later I got an email from Google saying that the site doesnt follow our guidelines. I think it was lack of content cause it was all links to other sites. Anyway, they disabled the google adsense on that particular website only! I deleted the domain immediately but moved the content to another website with no Google ads so I can still use it and have quick access to the currency conversions and other links I had posted. I think this was about 1-2 years ago. Anyway, again another site of mine was mostly news, RSS feeds all on a few pages. It received no organic traffic but I realized it generated not only high CPC but high CTR. I had it running for years. About 1-2 years ago I sent higher traffic and things were great. About 1-2 weeks ago I made a duplicate cause I thought worse comes to worse I wont get Google traffic which I never did from the first place and didnt spend the time to make another website to make some use out of a domain I realized expires in ~10 years! Apparently, I was walking the gray area and the duplicate content raised a flag. Google probably manually reviewed the site and noticed a 5 page website was making 500% more than my main websites consisting of thousands of pages.
I wasnt making much although for the amount of visitors I think it was paying pretty decent. I can PM you the link if you like. I still have the news website up with no google ads cause I mentioned it in my email to Google and told them ill keep the site up for their review cause I dont believe I was doing anything wrong.
When I say earning was up 500% it doesnt mean I was making a killing. My CTR's and CPC for my main site is very low especially CTR ~ 1%.
| 3:16 am on Sep 20, 2009 (gmt 0)|
Extremely unlikely they would ban you for duplicate content (they would simply lower the search positioning or page rank for one of the sites), or because for some really odd reason compared the revenue to your other site. There nust be a much bigger reason.
| 7:19 pm on Oct 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|but ~50 domains renewals costs ~$1,000/year (9.99 domain + 9.99 privacy) |
One option for you to lower the costs is to shop around a bit. I'm paying over half less for that, about $8 per year with free privacy.
| 7:57 pm on Oct 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
|I dont have as much as many people here, but ~50 domains renewals costs ~$1,000/year (9.99 domain + 9.99 privacy |
So, you would be willing to sell the domains, but pay EXTRA to make sure nobody can find out how to contact you?
| 8:44 pm on Oct 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
One can be contacted if one has domain privacy ..one cannot be contacted directly ..( ie; you get the message if someone wants to buy ..but they dont have your details if you dont wish to reply thankfully :)..
At least that is the case with registrars I use.
| 10:19 pm on Oct 4, 2009 (gmt 0)|
I wonder what the new freedom ICAAN has from US Govt will do to the domain speculations. Will there be a new blizzard of tlds to make money for a few while all the rest get little or nothing in return?
Curious minds want to know...