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.tel domains
what's the consensus?
bill

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 5:37 am on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

I just stumbled across info about the .TEL Sunrise [telnic.org]. I perused some of the documentation and videos on the site and thought this could be a good idea. At least it isn't another re-purposed ccTLD.

I'll probably grab my company's trademarked names. That could be a good access point for customers.

The Individual side scares me. I wouldn't stick all my private contact information out there for just anyone to see. I don't think I ever want to be that publicly accessible.

How long until all this info is scraped and resold to those spy/stalker sites?

Will you be getting your own .tel?

 

mvander

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 7:58 pm on Dec 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

How long until all this info is scraped and resold to those spy/stalker sites?

Bill, good point...sounds like it could be a field day for some.

bwaldman

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 2:16 pm on Jan 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

It would be great if we could get some interest in this thread. I received the same info - $400 to register a domain offered to trademark holders first.

My company holds 3 marks so $1,200 just to stop someone else from registering them.

The big question is this... with the .tel domains even be indexed? If so, by what company and will the results only show on mobile search? How will they rank vs the .com etc.

I guess I wouldn't care if it was $20, but this feels almost like extortion.

HuskyPup

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 5:00 pm on Jan 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

Will you be getting your own .tel?

I've just been rooting through the documentation and I actually like the concept however the principle is fundamentally flawed for larger, multi-office/national/international companies.

Are they assuming that businesses actually want to have all their offices and all other contact details available?

Google's a perfect example of not wanting to divulge anything and how many websites only give a contact form without any physical or direct e-mail address let alone...shhh...a telephone number?

Personally I do not have a problem giving all this information as we already do on our websites right now however how many companies feel the necessity to do this?

I spent an hour yesterday tracking down a company which, if they had used this, theoretically I would have found immediately, and yes, they had a website however both their index page and contact page titlebars were configured incorrectly which is why they had not been indexed correctly.

sandyeggo

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 3:23 am on Jan 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

Any more feedback on this? I hold a trademark and feel that I have to register the .tel domain for the $400 that they want in order to just fend off some squatter on my trademark. I am probably going to register it, but not because I want to use it or feel that its really that useful, but just so that no one else can cause confusion for my company.

maximillianos

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 6:34 pm on Jan 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Not to rain on the party... but aren't there already free services out there to find a company's address/contact information... ie Hoovers, etc. What value does a DNS hack like this provide beyond the free services already out there? These free company information services do not require you (the company) to have a website or domain name...

How will one verify this information is correct versus a squater that took the domain of some trademarked company? How about by going to the .COM site and verifying the address... ;-)

We always end up right back where we started... Folks are going to always trust the .COM information for a company.

No thanks. I'll keep my money. The squaters can have my .tel name(s).

IanTurner

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 1:59 pm on Jan 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have a couple of telephone systems providers on my client list - I can't even get a response out of them on the .tel domains, thats about as much interest as they have generated.

TinkyWinky

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 5:43 pm on Jan 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

pile of p00 I am afraid... more domains to make squatters rich and confuse the hell out of joe public.

TW

bill

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 3:51 am on Jan 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

I received the same info - $400 to register a domain offered to trademark holders first.

My company holds 3 marks so $1,200 just to stop someone else from registering them.


I got different information from my registrar. They told me the registration price was a one time fee for as many .tel names as I wanted.

I'm seriously debating whether to apply in the Sunrise period, or simply wait for the Landrush on February 3.

Saj3

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 4:57 pm on Jan 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think .tel will struggle attracting new users. They cannot break 1000 mark already for several months.

bill

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 2:15 am on Jan 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

They cannot break 1000 mark already for several months.

They're still in the sunrise period of applications. They're not scheduled to go live for a few months yet. Where did you get that figure?

Saj3

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 11:01 am on Jan 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

At google of course:
[google.com...]
the number is at 611.

dailypress

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 5:06 pm on Jan 31, 2009 (gmt 0)

I wouldn't buy my trademark.tel cause I doubt anyone could use the name to beat my website ranking with a one page website full of numbers and emails.

HuskyPup

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 6:25 pm on Feb 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

Further to my earlier post I'm beginning to warm to this idea but will wait until open registrations are available after March 24th at USD 9.60 from my registrar.

engine

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 5:38 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Landrush starts 3rd February. [uk.news.yahoo.com]
Companies that missed the opportunity to register their trademarks with the new .tel top-level domain (TLD) will get another opportunity with the opening of the landrush period from 3 February. The sunrise period of registrations reserved for trademark owners ran from 3 December to 2 February. The .tel TLD will be open to all from tomorrow until 23 March.


maximillianos

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 6:25 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Companies that missed the opportunity to register their trademarks with the new .tel top-level domain (TLD) will get another opportunity with the opening of the landrush period from 3 February.

In other words, no one bought them... so let's try this again... ;-)

Commerce

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 6:48 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Well, given the riproaring successes I have had in other off brand TLDs, how will I be successful with .tel? Cant.tel

So, will I buy into this tld? Wont.tel

Does anyone else have additional in.tel on dot.tel? do.tel

Of course, with the recent new ICANN stance on open TLDs, what is the future for these registries? Oh.Hell

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 8:10 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Wonder how many travel firms will snap up ho.tel, mo.tel, etc. ;)

bbd2000

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 8:20 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Wow,

Itís just a directory. Whatís the point?

gamiziuk

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 8:44 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'll consider one when GoDaddy has them available at a discount. Wait time about a year.

nomis5

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 9:21 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

'Tis just another rip=off. It's amazing how many spurious ideas guys like this come up with. Spend the $400 on a night out at the theatre and a slap-up meal with she / he who matters most for you. The returns will be a thousand fold more than buying a .tel domain.

Commerce

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 9:36 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

@incrediBILL - I am not sure that is possible because of the ICANN policy not allowing registration of two letter domain names under a TLD.

Of course, these days policies everywhere seem to change on a whim, so who knows?

johnnie

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 10:59 pm on Feb 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Whats the use of yet another tld? Don't we already have .mobi?

shiphen

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 12:46 pm on Feb 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

What about the SEO aspects of this?
Is it likely that if registration is policed tightly (like the owners claim they will) that Google will treat .tel differently?

i.e. Will owning a .tel domain boost your SEO?

Ship

(P.S. Maybe we might even avoid having to bid on our own company name in Adwords...?)

maximillianos

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 3:04 pm on Feb 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Someone gets paid to come up with this stuff? A "VIP" program for the .tel domains:

[telnic.org...]

Signed,
maximillianos.vip.tel

Wlauzon

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 4:00 pm on Feb 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Wait til next year, GoDaddy will be offerering them for $2.95.

Rugles

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 4:29 pm on Feb 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

$375 for 3 years! Yikes!

But, we got the name we wanted, beating a similarily named US competitor to it. Who are apparently asleep at the switch .. maybe their webmaster should join WebmasterWorld ;-) .

HuskyPup

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 5:01 pm on Feb 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

$375 for 3 years! Yikes!

Precisely why I'll wait until I can get the three I would like for USD 9.60 each...if they've gone, they've gone.

Itís just a directory. Whatís the point?

I have a lot of country specific and international sites and this would actually be an advantage for me to have the contact information for all worldwide offices and contacts all in one place and save having to update this information site by site.

I already do this with our footer copyright identical on all sites going to the same privacy, legal and cookies site on our .info site.

Just how many others are prepared to do this I have no idea since many companies are very reluctant to give out any direct contact information it seems to me, mind you, they could use .tel to go to their useless call centres too!

Rugles

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 7:28 pm on Feb 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Itís just a directory. Whatís the point?

I think its going to be the yellow pages for the internet, cell phones and mobile devices. I would imagine that Google will treat the info on those domains as an authority for contact information. Especially because trademark holders were given the first crack at them and the high entry cost means there will be less spam.

Just a guess, but don't too surprised that those domains rank #1 for trademarked company names in a couple years.

anon123

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Msg#: 3805810 posted 10:18 pm on Feb 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

In this "landrush" I've found some good available names including guitar.tel (Which was available this morning when I looked, and now taken.)

But I don't see the monetary value of these domains since this is just a place to store contact information?

If I were to turn around and sell guitar.tel, who would want it... Wouldn't Fender guitars rather have fender.tel?

What am I not getting here? All these domains seem pointless to me too, unless it's your business name.

And if I weren't going to turn around and sell guitar.tel, what point is it for me to own it, what kind of things could you do with this site? What kind of contact info would I put? Do they allow ads? I'm just not getting this at all.

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