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Trying to find the owner of a domain
dailypress

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 4:06 pm on Jul 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

here are the steps Ive taken:

searched Whois: no contact info found because of privacy options
searched Google: no useful information found
emailed webmaster, info, admin and feedback@example.com: no answer, email delivery failure

any other methods you can think of?

 

Webwork

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 4:36 pm on Jul 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is the domain parked, i.e., typing the domain launches a landing page populated with website-ad links?

No "for sale" or "inquire about this domain" link on the lander? If none, that's not a good sign. Privacy + no "for sale" info is a sign that the domainer is not interested in retail domain sales. In other words, they really don't care to hear from you about your interest in their domain, likely because of all the time they've wasted in the past fielding inquiries.

You could try to send a message via the person's parking company BUT BE CERTAIN to include a specific amount you are prepared to pay and a great deal of identifying info that establishes your credibility and ability to pay the offered amount.

Folks who make it difficult to reach them are the type of folks that you don't approach with a "I want to bargain for this . . " mentality. Determine a reasonable enduser value for the domain and make an offer which is your highest best offer or something only slightly under what you are prepared to pay.

I have had luck doing business with the most unreachable domainers.

My luck was based upon making offers that made people willing to respond. I got right to the point and made my credentials known from the outset. In essense, I let the person know they would not be wasting their time. That's the type of person who makes it hard to reach them: Someone who values their time more than they value the next "less than informed offer".

Laker

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 5:55 pm on Jul 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

no contact info found because of privacy options

Some whois privacy services still enable you to send an email or snail-mail communication to the registrant, while others seemingly don't.

I presume you have tried that route ?

dailypress

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 4:06 pm on Jul 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

thanks for the replies.

Webwork: Its a parked domain since 1997 or 8 I think and its not for sale. But im sure for the right price it is.
I am willing to pay several thousand dollars for this particular domain. I would try to contact the company that it has been parked with, but there is no sign of where it has been parked. It is not like a GoDaddy parked page. Just a page with ads.

I checked the Whois website and the only contact is:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Should I contact them?

Laker: I tried the website you mentioned, but I had no luck with that either. Thank you though!

I've been trying to contact this guy for a few months now...

Laker

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 4:52 pm on Jul 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I checked the Whois website and the only contact is:
Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc.
Should I contact them?

Sure!

It is not like a GoDaddy parked page. Just a page with ads.

Did you try "view source" on that page of ads? Sometimes that will provide a clue as to the identity/source of the parking company, and/or the site itself.

dailypress

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 6:05 pm on Jul 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

good call.
but all I could find is a link to an image from nuseek.com

I checked for the domain through Sedo. It said Acquire Domain through Broker. How does that work? Do they have access to personal info?

Laker

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 7:04 pm on Jul 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Do they have access to personal info?

I don't think they have any info other than what the best of us can find ;-)

But they may have "personal/professional" registrar contacts/relationships that can provide them with information "we" end users couldn't get...

What Sedo (and others) will do with their various broker schemes, is try to contact the owner, WITH your offer.

I guess, the hungrier they are, the harder they will try to track down contact information.

I dunno who pays the fee in a broker situation ... usually (on Sedo) the seller pays the Sedo (10%) commission, however I would anticipate that in a broker arrangement, the buyer would pay that fee

dailypress

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 7:21 pm on Jul 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

heres more info:

as mentioned I found an image hosted on NUseek.com

in regards to NUSeek

Read TITLE: Anyone heard of nuseek.com hijacking domains or stealing traffic ? [namepros.com]

any solution now?

dailypress

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3690573 posted 8:19 pm on Jul 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I found out that the site is through name-services A.K.A ENOM.
Enom.com

I called them and they verified that the site was parked by them. When I mentioned the URL for NUSeek, they said you have the wrong definition of "site being hacked" and that they can not offer any more information other than what is offered by WhoIs.

Laker

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3690573 posted 8:40 pm on Jul 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

they verified that the site was parked by them

Hey ... "half-way home" ... now all that's needed is to cozy up to them and find out how to somehow get a message to the registrant!

When I mentioned ... "site being hacked"

hmmm... beats me why anyone would bring up "hacking" in such a conversation.

dailypress

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Msg#: 3690573 posted 5:15 pm on Jul 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

beats me why anyone would bring up "hacking" in such a conversation.

see 2 post above: the link "Anyone heard of nuseek.com hijacking domains or stealing traffic?" I guess I meant hijacking.

but anyway, the good news is thanks to HuskyPup I found the previous owner of the site. He said he already sold it to someone else 2 years ago. So I'm waiting to see if he has the new owner's contact info.

dailypress

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3690573 posted 7:22 pm on Jul 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

thanks guys for your help. I finally got in touch with the previous owner.

Webwork

WebmasterWorld Administrator webwork us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3690573 posted 8:01 pm on Jul 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I've been watching with interest the outcome of you following up on a (private) suggestion I made.

Do you feel a bit more "educated" by the process? :)

Do the $-numbers surprise you?

Did you find it interesting to learn what a challenge it is to get to the point of "making an effective offer" to someone and how much one likely should know or be aware of before making - or choosing to not make - an offer?

dailypress

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3690573 posted 2:13 pm on Jul 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yes, I was shocked but now more educated.

I also found out how much the previous owner had sold the domain which was a bit suprising.

thanks again for your help.

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