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Winning a Domain via Backorder
Do any registrars have an edge over the competition?
justgowithit




msg:3682403
 2:15 pm on Jun 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm not into buying/selling domains. I develop the properties, I donít deal in the real estate. However, I like to pick up a domain here and there if the name hits me.

There's been many-a-time when I come across a domain that's pending delete and I stroll over to my GoDaddy account to backorder it. Not once have a won a domain off of backorder. Are there any registrars that have an edge in the backorder race or is it all luck of the draw.

I'm not asking for anyone to divulge their business secrets. I'd be happy with a simple yes or no from someone in the know. I'm starting to feel as though GoDaddy isn't the quickest bunny in the backorder patch.

 

Webwork




msg:3682484
 3:49 pm on Jun 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

In each case you need to know which auction house a domain registrar has a relationship or whether they control the resale of their own drops.

Auction relationships can change overnight. An example of this was the NetSol / NameJet / SnapNames "upset". Therefore, if there's a name you really want you need to keep abreast of the latest changes.

You now have to deal with NameJet, SnapNames, Pool, Afternic, GoDaddy, . . .

I say the best approach still is to be proactive. Go after under-utilized domains directly by contacting the domain's registrant before the drop. YMMV.

bwnbwn




msg:3682760
 9:48 pm on Jun 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

I say the best approach still is to be proactive. Go after under-utilized domains directly by contacting the domain's registrant before the drop.

thanks Webwork I was wondering if that was a good idea or not as it sometimes leads to the register getting a little greedy but I am going to give it a shot on some I am watching and see if I can get me a few. Most likely will have to have a bunch of accounts to do this as I am sure the register will require it be registerd with them to begin with.

Webwork




msg:3682782
 10:21 pm on Jun 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

bwnbwn, by registrant I mean the individual or company that currently "owns" the domain but is "underutilizing it" = not parked, no website, crummy neglected website = lost interest.

In the old days, before auctions, there might have been a chance to negotiate for expiring domains - if you were a volume buyer with $$$$. Not sure about "going direct" to a registrar today.

bwnbwn




msg:3683119
 2:21 pm on Jun 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Webwork
Trying to contact the owner is a lost cause in most cases as the information ususally isn't good from what I have seen, besides owner hs forgotten about it and really doesn't know it is expiring. By me contacting they can renew the domain and then try to sale at an inflated price. I have contacted some of the owners through a 3rd party and the prices they want for the domains is crazy.

I have been searching the web for the last couple months hard full time all day looking for good link partners and from what I am seeing there are so many sites gone busted it is scary, then the majority of the rest are old and outdated. I would estimate of the 1000 or more sites I have visitied in the last month 10% are kept up and working the rest are either closed or just there.

Granted this is in one vertical I am looking in but man the net is a tough place and many are fooled into getting into a business.

Webwork I just need to learn the ropes on geting expiring domain names as there is a way to get it done it is just justgowithit and me are in the blind here and need to figure how the auction companies are doing it so we can get in the fray as well.

I will begin the task of gathering as much information on this and start working to learn how to get it done and quit wasting any money of backoprdering domains and it looks to me just a waste of time anyway.

novustek




msg:3683121
 2:30 pm on Jun 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Just this morning i tried back ordering a domain. fingers crossed,

If push comes to shove and they do happen to renew ive always found its better to be upfront, explain you could use it and offer them a price

justgowithit




msg:3683129
 2:47 pm on Jun 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

I will begin the task of gathering as much information on this and start working to learn how to get it done and quit wasting any money of backordering domains and it looks to me just a waste of time anyway.

If you'd be so kind, I'd love to hear what you find. It would make a good comprehensive post.

The domain I lost yesterday, the one that prompted my post, was listed in a Snapnames auction almost immediately after it dropped. A company affiliate with Snapnames was the registrar prior the name dropping which is very fishy but perfectly logical.

Domains are commodities and I can't see a domain with real value being grabbed off of a backorder by an average Joe. I venture to guess that those in this business are reading this post and shaking their heads like a teacher would to student..... oh, there's so much to learn.

Luckily, like I said before, I put food on the table by building the houses not buying the land.

bwnbwn




msg:3683179
 3:28 pm on Jun 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Way I figure it justgowithit learning about the other end is all a part of SEO and I have failed there.

Luckily, like I said before, I put food on the table by building the houses not buying the land
Very true but one important ingredient is ya gotta have the land to build the house, so actually they really go hand in hand what your really trying to do is "add on" not actually build.

serega




msg:3698415
 11:59 pm on Jul 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

pool.com has a rate of success of about 2.5% when it comes to backorders. sick n tired of it. need help. seems like the same guy from oregon beats me every time. frustrating

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