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what will happen to my ranking if I make my domain private

WebmasterWorld Senior Member zeus us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3474207 posted 9:06 pm on Oct 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

I just get to mutch spam, so im thinking about making my domain private, but will it have a effect on the rankings on google



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Msg#: 3474207 posted 2:29 pm on Oct 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Zeus, every time I've seen this issue posted the consistent answer I've seen is this: Absent the influence of other factors the choice of WhoIs privacy - alone - is not detrimental.

Usual caveat: Only the SE engineers can answer this question, but a) they're not talking; and, b) they are know to rethink their decisions, so it's a case of "here today, gone tomorrow".

Privacy may be a negative but only as a piece of a larger gaming puzzle: Privacy + certain neighborhoods/topics + rate of link growth +

Privacy, alone, would not be a rational decision since there are many valid reasons to excercise a right to privacy BUT if you excercise that right to privacy then presumably you are taking other steps - such as not showing a phone number, mailing address, etc. - that would be consistent with a need for privacy - HOWEVER, (and this is a tough call) should the act of hiding behind a veil of privacy affect the trustworthiness of a website?

IF I were a search engineer I'd use privacy as a trigger for running a few other filters to look for other bad signals.

You sending any other bad signals, big guy?


WebmasterWorld Senior Member jtara us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 5+ Year Member

Msg#: 3474207 posted 3:43 pm on Oct 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

First of all, unfortunately, you're current email account is toast if you're getting that much spam. Deep-six it and start over with a new email address. You're spam email probably won't drop off once you take it off of the domain registration. It will probably only get worse, because spammers exchange good addreses with each other.

But before you do that... sign-up with a DEA (Disposable Email Address) service. For a very small yearly fee, these services let you generate a unique email address for each web site registration, each online store registration, each mailing list you subscribe to, etc. When you get spam, you know where they got your address. And you can turn off individual addresses.

And they're super-nifty for domain registrations, as well.

Some people use free email accounts for this purpose, and dispose of them after a while. A DEA service is a better implementation of the same idea.


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Msg#: 3474207 posted 3:45 pm on Oct 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Have you tried changing your contact email address on the domain registration? These addresses get harvested and resold, eventually.

By changing the address at intervals (I find once or twice a year is normally enough), and making sure the previous addresses just bounce, you should greatly cut down the spam.

In other words, the contact address should be a throwaway address that you change when it has been harvested and resold too much.

(jtara typed quicker than me!)


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Msg#: 3474207 posted 7:40 am on Oct 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

On a related note, you should be aware of the potential dangers of using privacy services. With a privacy service, you will not be listed as the registrant or administrative contact and you agree that the registrar is the official registrant and administrative contact. This means that in the event of a problem, such as the registrar going out of business, you could be left trying to prove that the domain belongs to you. This is not a hypothetical situation. Many people faced this exact problem after a large registrar collapsed and had their ICANN accreditation revoked earlier this year.

So the question you should be asking yourself is:

What is more important to my business - proving that I am the rightful owner of my domain by listing WHOIS details or hiding behind a privacy service to avoid spam and potentially putting my business at risk?


WebmasterWorld Senior Member vincevincevince us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3474207 posted 7:45 am on Oct 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

The address in your WHOIS records is one factor in appearing in geographically targeted search results. For example, if you have a .com domain targetting the UK which is on US hosting you would be well advised to use a privacy service which uses a UK address, or not to use privacy at all.


Msg#: 3474207 posted 9:30 pm on Oct 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

Slightly off topic:

I just get to mutch spam

How much is too much? OK I know, one is one too many:-(

I have 16 e-mail accounts and they receive on average 600 mails per day with only 2% valid! I know this since I went away for 5 days and came back to 3,062 emails of which 62 were genuine and this is quite normal for me.

I use a small program accessing my mail directly on the server and delete there and then download genuine mails as normal. It only takes a few minutes in a morning and then occassionally during the day to keep them clear, it also works from a flash drive too.

I do know one company that gets 30,000+ per day, yuck!


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Msg#: 3474207 posted 12:39 pm on Oct 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

vince, do you know of any registrars for .com's and .org's who do have UK privacy addresses?

[edited by: Nick0r at 12:40 pm (utc) on Oct. 20, 2007]


WebmasterWorld Senior Member vincevincevince us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 3474207 posted 12:58 pm on Oct 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Nick0r, I'm afraid I don't; but I imagine if you chase down UK based registrars and ask them someone will say 'yes'.

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