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which one is better: eBid or iBid
similiarly: eTravel or iTravel,...
dotbiz




msg:3462681
 2:36 pm on Sep 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm thinking to buy such a domain in a country extension and not sure which one to pursue. If you have a choice, would you take ebid.xx or ibid.xx, eTravel.xx or iTravel.xx? The word can be used as a noun or a verb.

 

netmeg




msg:3464155
 7:51 pm on Sep 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

I was thinking of trying 'o' names, but I'm afraid Oprah will come after me...

Rhymer




msg:3464184
 8:42 pm on Sep 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

I was thinking of trying 'o' names, but I'm afraid Oprah will come after me...

Perhaps not if you made it an Irish domain? :)

rebies




msg:3464337
 1:37 am on Sep 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Design a logo first. That will help you think of the branding. Someone said eBid is better than iBid. But what if your logo is "I Bid", as in I'm doing the bidding. I'm not specifically arguing or saying iBid is better in this case, but a lot comes down to your logo, branding, and how people will perceive you.

At the end of the day buy both domains. Donít give someone the chance to piggyback off your success in the future. If you are successful, and use MyDomain - someone will always buy My-Domain and MyDomains and try to capitalize on your success.

blend27




msg:3464342
 1:57 am on Sep 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Sound 'e' in Russian means 'and', which comes from the Greek word LOGITECH(as in type, men, type), and there you go...

It does not matter what, as long as they type...

King_Fisher




msg:3464407
 5:23 am on Sep 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

ibtraveling...ubtraveling?

I know, I know... Was just desperate to post to this thread!...KB :o)

[edited by: King_Fisher at 5:25 am (utc) on Sep. 29, 2007]

RandomDot




msg:3464418
 6:10 am on Sep 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

interesting discussion. I'm in a very creative niche market, so I guess I'm biased towards that, but I find all of the "iExample"/"eExample" site names to be extremely generic and boring. They've lost their punch. I'd much rather choose a name that can be branded specifically toward my product/site/whatever and one that gives visitors a sense of personality behind the product/site/whatever. Then again, maybe that's just the viewpoint of a creative writer (which I am) rather than a techie (which I am not)?

That's it - always look at your own bias towards something - it controls you because you are used to thinking like that - it's your usual market or habitus - then throw it out the window if you are going somewhere else than you usually do - it's not going to help you.

If you're that creative, then think like a techie, or a dog, or a blue rabbit who wants to take over the world, or caesar, or a roman soldier at the frontier of the empire or whatever -

Imagine as a creative writer that you were going mainstream and was going to write some of those boring and superficial books about .. I don't know .. a guy who kills somebody and then some detective who has to find the guy. you know the lame and standard plot which has been done a million times before. It sounds boring and all that - but .. it sells alot of books - and it's a different market - just look at the charts - how would you hit that market? Would you hit your own "creative" market with a standard plot? ... now, that would be fun - and the end of your business... ;)

What you are used to doing is probably not going to hit that too - people don't expect creativity or something new in that market - they expect what they've always gotten. It's a market in itself and different demographics than you are used to working with and targeting - and then the personal angle might not be as good - as in the I - but the E might be the case -

Ebooks.xx might be a better option than Ibooks.xx etc - actually the generic domain with the keyword in it might be THE thing to hit as in "CrimeStories.Com" or to use the example of this discussion "eCrime" (but again, some brand recognization is good .. ) again - it's about the market and not how you want it to be - it doesn't suit you specifically. There are alot of ways to do things - depends on the market you target, and what they expect and sometimes also what they don't - we're keeping the business of branding very simple here with the difference between two letters, but they're good for educational purposes since it gives an idea of how it can make a huge difference in perception -

That's why you need a professional if you are going somewhere else than your own little head - not that it's bad to be there - if you are targeting likeminded people - but you might insult somebody without knowing it if you go somewhere else (insert earlier example with World of Warcraft here - they went to China and almost got banned by the state because they showed bones in the game .. that was an insult to the chinese culture since that's holy over there..imagine if you based your logo or something else in your brand about bones... )

Research is your friend, i'm not ;)

Edit: details, details..

[edited by: RandomDot at 6:36 am (utc) on Sep. 29, 2007]

SlimKim




msg:3464507
 11:23 am on Sep 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

most of the good ones are taken but the suffix ly is being used some now

with hundreds of millions of ad impressions to gather from, i can tell you that you never know until you test

one of my best ctr domains has a prefix of ask followed by a 6 letter personal last name

one of my poorest ctr domains [using an identical ad] has the prefix ask followed by a 3 letter personal first name

interestingly enough i find a country domain name for an exact match keyword domain will have a lesser ctr than a generic .com [example mortgage calculator]

lastly, i note a significant, measurable difference in ctr for different length domains

6 to 9 letters are optimal, longer has a lesser ctr and beleive it or not, my 3, 4 and 5 letter names are lesser too.

but plosives figure in too, some words just roll off the tongue and sound better than others. That's why you find a lot of company names and product names beginning with b, c, d, k, p, t,

Rhymer




msg:3464732
 5:47 pm on Sep 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

That's it - always look at your own bias towards something - it controls you because you are used to thinking like that - it's your usual market or habitus - then throw it out the window if you are going somewhere else than you usually do - it's not going to help you.

But surely, depending on the market you are dealing with, there can be compromise? A blending of the two? Something that can appease the tech side while still speaking to the audience that appreciates/works for creativity?

I know there can be a huge disconnect between the two. I know of a directory that is specifically for my target audience. No reciprocal links required. All it aims to be is an authoritative portal for sites in the field. But the creative types aren't breaking down the doors to sign up. Why?

I think it's because they just don't realize the value. Sure, they have web sites. Everybody's told them they need one. But they don't really know what to do with them. SERPs? SEO? Page ranking? Most of them have never heard of those things. And yet their web sites can be/are vital to their marketing efforts.

If you're that creative, then think like a techie, or a dog, or a blue rabbit who wants to take over the world, or caesar, or a roman soldier at the frontier of the empire or whatever

I've actually become a bit of a hybrid. I learned years ago to write my own HTML code, do my own graphics, build web sites, write good content, try to keep up with the tech world (hence my presence here).

But, ultimately, yeah, I think like a creative person. You make a good point about being aware of that bias.

(Apologies if this is getting too far off the main topic.)

blend27




msg:3464741
 6:01 pm on Sep 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

--A blending of the two?--

yep, +7

Quadrille




msg:3465569
 1:37 am on Oct 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

'e' is better than 'i' as prefix, can fetch more value for domain name.

That's $6.50 against $6.49? ;)

Seriously, they are overused and basically meaningless to the average Internet user.

A name that makes sense like familytree or smellymutt is not only worth more $$$, it's easier to remember and more understandable too.

Why go for i-ambiguity or e-ambiguity when you can opt for makessense.com?

Maybe not makes-sense-to-me.info - you can have too much of a good thing :)

[edited by: Quadrille at 1:38 am (utc) on Oct. 1, 2007]

rfung




msg:3465637
 5:10 am on Oct 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

Somewhat unrelated, but I have one site that is branded with two 'ee's where there should be an 'i', i.e. (strictly examples) beescuits.com/biscuits,deescover.com/discover, etc

Wondering what the effect would be with these mispellings? I figure with proper marketing (assuming the correct spelling of the word is not a big brand as in the example above for discover) the variation should stick in the user's mind?

jtara




msg:3465660
 5:59 am on Oct 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have one site that is branded with two 'ee's where there should be an 'i'

Badges? Badges? We don't need no....

SteenkinBadges.tld

(Yes, I left the "g" out on purpose. I think it reads better this way.)

Go for it! Let's see how long this lasts. :)

Miamacs




msg:3465857
 12:02 pm on Oct 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

A blending of the two

What do you mean... 'ie'?

Oh then, you could register stuff starting with 'ms' too. Just remember to keep reporting back... oh wait, you probably won't have to, you'll be in the news anyway.

...

Can't remember if anyone mentioned it so here it goes, a prefix for you to register every 3rd word with ( most are taken tho ):

'g'

...

gaffiliates.tld ( either a fishing accessory wholesale or a fan site... perhaps a new marketing buzzword. )

gelections.tld ( ... I'll leave this to your imagination )
ginteger.tld ( how many fingers do you see? )
ginterpol.tld ( again... )
gindexing.tld ( yet again... and I don't even drink )
gprofessionals.tld ( Professionals... like Alonso. )
gimplement.tld ( ...gadobe.tld was taken. )
gseated.tld ( ticket reservation perhaps? )

gwien.tld ( can you spot the city name? Ot have you just decided what you'll name your daughter? )
gunitedkingdom.tld ... or since that's irrelevant...

gunitedstates.tld - Grab it and make it a news/awareness site. It's tragic how often you could update it.

( I'll check back later to see if either was registered ... )

walkman




msg:3465982
 2:24 pm on Oct 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

depends. Itravel is better because of the verb thing. esurance too, since it is a play on--of sort--on "ins." Additionally, if you are selling ticket online, etickets would be perfect.

Nevertheless, unless it's 1999 and you plan on going public, I'd stay away from them.

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