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How many, how often, and how much?
Duskrider

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Msg#: 3382288 posted 5:08 pm on Jun 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hey everyone,

This is more out of plain curiosity than needing help with anything, but I'd to get an idea of what everyone does domain wise.

For instance, I'm mostly a web programmer / designer, but as part of that process I need to register domain names. Sort of a one man band type of thing. As such, domain names in general are an interest to me, but far from my main interest. I got to thinking about it because last night I scooped up 3 names, bringing my total to 9. Of those, 2 are in mid-development (stalled is probably more appropriate), 4 are in the idea phase, and 3 are full fledged active sites that are more or less complete. I don't have any domains that aren't centered around an idea. In other words, I don't buy them to sell them... I buy them to develop them with an idea in mind at the time of purchase. Of the 9 I have, all of them are .com and none of them have any non-alpha characters (hyphens, numbers, etc). If I can't find a decent .com that I like for the name I just forget the idea and move on to the next. Kinda picky that way I guess.

Anyway, I was just curious as to everyone else's domain habits. How often do you go looking, for what reason, how many do you have, how picky are you (.com, .net, .info, hyphens, etc), do you sell them, develop them, or both... things like that. Thought it might make for an interesting discussion. I'm also curious as to the methods people use to FIND the right name. Usually I just figure out my idea, what words work with it, and shuffle words and synonyms until I find one I like.

Thoughts?

 

Webwork

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Msg#: 3382288 posted 3:09 pm on Jun 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

I hear crickets chirping . . .

Hi Duskrider. Interesting questions. The problem is they are so sweeping that answering them - "as is" - is darn near impossible, at least impossible without writing a book. ;)

Have you read the threads in the archive, a/k/a The Library [webmasterworld.com]? Many of the issues you raise have been covered in past threads. I suggest you take some time to read them and then report back here with your thoughts and questions.

Setting aside the businesslike tone for a moment, and putting on my ChattyHat . . .

I try not to domain these days. I've got waaaay toooooo maaaany domains and I've always acquired the domains with a mind to development, not simply hold them. Time and technology keep making development less onerous and expensive . . so now's a good time for me to act on the thoughts and words.

I do still shop and there still are some bargains to be had. Look in the library for threads about "local search". There are some interesting ones to talk about what to target, how to find target domains, etc. All nicely stored in The Library.

I picked up a few domains recently. Most relate to generic, highly commercial search terms. Many related to my interest in localized search. I've also picked up a few domains related to emerging "web issues". All good, clean fun. I stay away from famous marks, celebrity names, etc. I suggest you do the same.

venice

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 3:54 pm on Jun 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

"How often do you go looking"
Daily

"how many do you have"
800+

"how picky are you"
no hyphens
my thoughts: can I spell it, can I say it, can I brand it

"do you sell them, develop them, or both"
Have only sold 1 to date.
Develop and use, develop and lease, some are just leased with no development

Some days I feel as though I should be attending Domain Buyer Anonymous. I buy an average of 1 a day now.

Read this forum and listen to Webwork and others, there are still gems to be had if you are focused and know what you seek.

gmac17

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 9:58 pm on Jul 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

look every day

have about 500

have sold 3, have signed contract to sell my 4th.

As venice said, there are still gems out there.

I was never sure if i should really believe that until I had a $2500 offer on a name I hand reg'd less than a year ago for $8.

venice

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 1:55 am on Jul 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

"I had a $2500 offer on a name I hand reg'd less than a year ago for $8."

Similar story here. Driving down street and saw a sign that got me thinking of a domain name. Purchased for $8. Sold 3 weeks later for a lot more.

blueheelers

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 2:26 am on Jul 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have lots of domains, many of which are for investment and resale. I also purchase domains for potential projects. It's cheaper to buy a dozen $6.95 domains and renew them for a few years than it is to buy one aftermarket domain (when you need a good name for a project). Depending on how much free time, I may not buy a name for a few weeks and then come in and buy a few dozen at a time.

I try to stick to non-hyphenated .coms, too. My concern with deviating from this plan is if I am fortunate enough to build a successful site on a .net/.org/.info then I will lose traffic to the .com. It costs the same to renew a lousy domain as it does to renew a good one.

I like to focus on industries and niches that I know. I have found many good names the average person would not know but someone in the industry would pay top dollar for.

King_Fisher

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 6:25 am on Jul 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Fascinating thread! Have about 10 domains all original and registered myself.
Two questions, What is wrong with a hyphenated names and where do you search for the existing domain names that you purchase? KF

tomda

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 6:49 am on Jul 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

"How often do you go looking"
Daily check for dropped DNS
Weekly check in some auctions

"how many do you have"
30

"how picky are you"
no hyphens and short if possible...
Same than above, "can I say it, can I spell it, is it nice to the ears and short, and lastly can I brand it"

"do you sell them, develop them, or both"
No sale yet! Just waiting for the big Day.
Most of them are kept for future development and are all parked.

My last challenge was to get a 4-letters .com (without a "q" or "z")... It's pretty hard but I managed to get two, bad ones presumably.

I often watch/listen to news to know what is IN/UP and OUT/DOWN. And every time something comes in/up, I must check for the DNS availability.

Lastly, I am new in the market, so I will try to limit myself to 50-60 DNS and will first try to sell some before purchasing new ones. I don't want to end up with 800 DNS like Venice, it's over my budget.

chicagohh

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 1:07 pm on Jul 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

How often do you go looking? - Daily

How many do you have? - 400+

How picky are you? - Almost all my domains are .COM's

Do you sell them, develop them, or both? - Both. I make most of my purchases based upon my development ideas. I figure if I think a domain could be built into something more valuable that the original domain - someone else likely will feel that way.

Habtom

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 1:16 pm on Jul 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

How often do you go looking? - Frequently
How many do you have? - 12+
How picky are you? - .COM's

Both for sale and development. I buy them the same way with some idea in mind.

But also plan to buy more.

HuskyPup



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 1:41 pm on Jul 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

How often do you go looking

As and when required, sometimes if I'm bored on a Saturday afternoon (not often!) I'll have a look around.

For what reason

100% for business

How many do you have

170+ however I have let lapse maybe 50-60 over the years when they didn't fit in with my development plans. All the ones I have now, except obviously the new .mobi and .eu, I have had for many years, the oldest being 14 years with many over 10 years.

How picky are you

Very, I buy what is specifically required for development in my widget trade therefore I have quite a few .com, .net, .org, .biz, .info, .co.uk, .eu and .mobi however I also have .co.in, .com.br, .cn, .de, .es, .fr, .in, .it, .us and probably one or two others I can't think of right now.

I also buy the hyphenated versions if it is a two word phrase.

Do you sell them, develop them

Develop them mostly however I have been known to sell for the right price:-)

Huntster

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 6:55 pm on Jul 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

20 with 15 live, which is a good percentage. That's about all I can handle at once. Keeping the others from getting SEO neglected is a big problem for some and has in the past for me.

I market content and get new traffic in the industries I work. The domain name itself, aside from a couple of my brands - really do not matter all that much to me. So, when I'm in the mood and feel I can fill out the site within a year - I'll buy. Otherwise I don't. I don't look to re-sell anything. If I can't make good and constant residual money from the site for myself, it's not worth my time and effort to get it.

King_Fisher

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 2:08 am on Jul 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'll ask again. What is the problem with hyphenated domain names.
One of mine is hyphenated three times and I have no problem.
Am I missing something here? KF

buckworks

WebmasterWorld Administrator buckworks us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 1:11 pm on Jul 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

A hyphenated domain is no problem if you only ever plan to promote it online, where people simply need to click your links. However, hyphens make it a lot more difficult to promote the domain offline.

The hyphen is a royal pain in a spoken context, for one thing.

"Visit our website at example hyphen example cot com" just doesn't cut it on your telephone answering machine or in a radio ad!

If people see the domain name in print, there will always be some users who go to their computers and type the URL without the hyphen. That's okay if you control the version without hyphens and can redirect, but if someone else controls the non-hyphenated domain you'll be giving them a gift of typo traffic and confusing your target users as well.

I have a few hyphenated domains that put money in my pocket because they do okay in the SERPs but the above limitations put a serious cap on what I can ever expect to do with those sites. :(

Bennie

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 11:33 pm on Jul 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

How often do you go looking? - Daily, once hourly, I have lists of good domains unregistered.

How many do you have? - 200+

How picky are you? - Quite picky, all generic all .com.au and .com except a couple.

Do you sell them, develop them, or both? - I don't buy to sell, but I do buy with a buyer in mind. My little portfolio is mostly based around Keywords I plan to use for world domination.

artek

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3382288 posted 4:18 pm on Jul 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

King_Fisher

A hyphenated domains also do not create natural direct navigation traffic that occurs when someone types search phrase to browser, adds dot extension, and end up directly in website or place where domain is parked.

Surfers when they search this way, do not type-in search phrases to their browsers with hyphen(s) unless they already know website domain name they want to visit.

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