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New Domains Possible Mid-2008
Marcia




msg:3337836
 5:43 am on May 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

In 2000, two years after its designation by the U.S. government as the authority for overseeing Internet naming policies, ICANN approved seven new names, but only ".info" and ".biz" were truly for general use.

ICANN solicited additional applications in 2004 and has approved six regional or industry-specific names, such as ".travel" and ".asia," while rejecting ".#*$!" for the adult entertainment industry.

Also added were .jobs, .mobi, .cat, and .tel.


Story from Yahoo News [news.yahoo.com].

"This is all about choice," ICANN Chief Executive Paul Twomey said in a statement. "We want the diversity of the world's people, geography and business to be able to be represented in the domain name system."

I can guess which ones will get jumped on fast. Notice that .mfa wasn't one of them, maybe it'll be suggested for the next batch.

[edited by: Marcia at 5:54 am (utc) on May 12, 2007]

 

Rugles




msg:3342302
 6:24 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyone have a clue how this gets rolled out. I forgot how it worked last time.

Does it happen at a certain time and we all just sit there hitting F5 until we can type in the domain we are hoping for? Like buying concert tickets waiting for the on sale moment?

walkman




msg:3342320
 6:38 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

funny how the .com is still king. If you have a Greatname.newtld and advertise it, you're doing a huge favor to greatname.com :)

handsome rob




msg:3342340
 7:15 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

Absolutely, walkman. I can just see myself trying to explain to my mother over the phone how to get to SomeSite.travel while she's sitting at SomeSite.Travel.com

And I own several .travel domains too! DOH! Much like other companies, a client of mine simply didn't want anyone else grabbing their names.

lfgoal




msg:3342341
 7:17 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

"Notice that .mfa wasn't one of them"

Should have been. That and .scraper

mcavic




msg:3342367
 7:48 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

This is a case where we need fewer choices.

amznVibe




msg:3342371
 7:57 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

I sense greed on the part of the people who profit from the registries.

Every time a new TLD is created, thousands of corporations have to do defensive registrations of hundreds of domain names.

This can only lead to more regulation by outside sources which will be bad for everyone.

BTW, did they ever close that domain "tasting" loophole?
Or is that nonsense still going on?

blend27




msg:3342379
 8:18 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

--- Notice that .mfa wasn't one of them ---

Ha Ha, Yes it was, it just Obfuscated, AKA .info and .biz

gpmgroup




msg:3342380
 8:19 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

BTW, did they ever close that domain "tasting" loophole?
Or is that nonsense still going on?

There were just under 1,400,000 new. .com registrations yesterday :)

ronin




msg:3342391
 8:32 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

Much like other companies, a client of mine simply didn't want anyone else grabbing their names.

Every time a new TLD is created, thousands of corporations have to do defensive registrations of hundreds of domain names.

Corporate sector specific TLDs are extortion rackets. How could they be anything else?

If you start up a transatlantic cruise company and call it Titanic Travel, either titanictravel.com is taken, in which case you might opt for titanic.travel and lose most of your first time customers to titanictravel.com anyway.

Or else titanictravel.com is free, in which case you start renting it... and then why would you ever also rent titanic.travel? To stop someone else renting it, presumably. In which case the .travel TLD registrar has generated an expense for you which didn't exist before. Money out of nothing.

Why not also introduce TLDs for all the most popular and lucrative sectors on the internet - they would be sure to make money (just not for the domain renters).

.888
.#*$!
.pharma
.dating
.ringtones

blend27




msg:3342401
 8:49 pm on May 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

I was contacted few weeks after .eu landrush hit the fan, company was offering me to rent that domain, stating that the have created an agresive SEO Campain for it.

888,#*$!,pharma,dating and ringtones were still there..

sad

just checked it and it now says:

Status: SUSPENDED(QUARANTINE)
Registered: Fri Apr 7 2006
Available: Sat Jun 9 2007

Olney




msg:3342563
 1:09 am on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

ccTLDs are actually great in a lot of countries.
Just make sure the domain is something that those people can relate to & understand.

.es, .ca, .jp, .tw, co.uk, .cn etc.

Moncao




msg:3342702
 6:39 am on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I want the Solomons to go back to being called the British Solomons and to manage their tld for them.

Marcia




msg:3342727
 7:43 am on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyone have a clue how this gets rolled out. I forgot how it worked last time.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I vaguely remember that some registrars were pre-authorized to sell them, and that you could pre-order them through those registrars for an added fee on top of what they would cost when actually released.

I was using an excellent reseller at the time that changed (for the worse) when it changed ownership and used them back then for my own, and referred clients direct to them (not affiliate) for domain names. They'd give personal attention when there was a problem getting Network Solutions to release a name for transfer.

You could pre-order through them in advance of actual release, when it was announced; that specific I distinctly remember.

Joff




msg:3342735
 7:58 am on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Moncao, Cook Islands for me pls :)

Ganceann




msg:3343287
 6:09 pm on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

The biggest problem with new TLD being introduced is the fact that spammers/mfa and domain squatters exist.

I have no problem with new TLD being introduced to increase availability - however, it should be regulated introduction and not a free for all.

Many TLD already exist that are free for all - and any further introduced extensions should be reserved for appropriate uses to maintain integrity.

I do agree, the reason new TLDs are mainly operated from a business standpoint and aimed at increasing profits for the registrars and creating unncessary expenses for legitimate business owners who operate online and want to protect their brand identity.

.biz should never have been made publicly available for everyone to register... it should have been reserved for registered businesses and companies to add some integrity to the extension.

Dc71




msg:3343441
 8:56 pm on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

"Notice that .mfa wasn't one of them"

As well you may remember when the tld .bz was officially introduced back in early 2006 and google quickley snaped google.bz which was registered and a owner actually had the website google.bz.

borntobeweb




msg:3343458
 9:11 pm on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

There seems to be no rhyme or reason to these new tlds and many overlap each other. What's the difference between a "business" (.biz) and a "commercial entity" (.com)? Why is there a .travel and not a .hairsalon or .restaurant? or .aero and not .auto or .boat? And what is .tel all about?

The .tel domain is reserved for businesses and individuals to publish their contact data and is sponsored by Telnic Ltd.

Isn't that what the Contact Us page is for? Am I expected to register an entire new domain just to put my contact info up? And will the data be presented in a standard way to make it easier for spammers?

"This is all about choice," ICANN Chief Executive Paul Twomey said in a statement. "We want the diversity of the world's people, geography and business to be able to be represented in the domain name system."

The domain name system as it stands is a straight mapping of the hierarchical architecture of the internet and only makes sense to computer people. The average user doesn't care about hierarchies (think about how many users put all their documents on the Desktop). We don't need more random TLDs, we need a more user friendly system.

Dc71




msg:3343469
 9:20 pm on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

simply put I am not a forensic engineer and understand the very nature of how DNS TCP packets (which still exist) other than UDP DNS but I do understand that the longer .bobstld the extension the more difficult the memory requirements of the servers memory and bandwidth have to be. It could be said that a server hosting 10000 .bz domain names could be 1/2 more efficient than a .mobi extension.

But with redundancy and many many exitant domain tlds comes security. The new the extension the more insecure it is or harder to secure as it where.

I am sure that the relecs like a.root-servers.net can't handle all the serving requirements of all the domain names out their thats why the need for redundancy exist.

Marcia




msg:3343508
 9:56 pm on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

It occurs to me that the more TLDs there are, the more parked domains there will be. How much revenue is derived from that end of things, and by whom, and how much will be possible when multiplied several-fold?

[Edited to add]

Missed this thread, good point about type-in traffic as well:

Domain Parking Traffic Coverts at x2 the Rate of Content Network [webmasterworld.com]

[edited by: Marcia at 10:05 pm (utc) on May 18, 2007]

Parlays




msg:3343581
 11:50 pm on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

I was once talking to a girl I know about my domain name and I told her I couldn't get the .com one, but I was able to get the .net...

and she was like "oh they are the same, I thought people that get domains that aren't .com are getting them because they are cheap"... I couldn't help but laugh but it's the way that the public views domain names. People respect .coms

Gremlin098




msg:3345812
 8:42 pm on May 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've owned the .org name of a company for about 12 years now. I offered it to them several times during the dot com craze. No response, including the one I was expecting which was an ICANN dispute. Apparently they don't care in the least. Tells you something about the value of non-dot-coms.

[edited by: Webwork at 10:32 pm (utc) on May 21, 2007]
[edit reason] Charter [webmasterworld.com] [/edit]

celgins




msg:3346409
 1:33 pm on May 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

It occurs to me that the more TLDs there are, the more parked domains there will be. How much revenue is derived from that end of things, and by whom, and how much will be possible when multiplied several-fold?

Marcia - I'd just finished reading this article and then I read your post. Interesting info concerning the "whom" part of your question.

CNN: The Man Who Owns the Internet [money.cnn.com]

Alternative Future




msg:3347319
 8:48 am on May 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I would like to registrar a .travel domain, as I have a site promoting tourism in a particular country. Can someone suggest what the process behind getting a UIN and also should I be expected to pay for this registration and at what cost.

All help on this matter is gratefully appreciated.

With thanks,

-Gs

gpmgroup




msg:3347382
 9:51 am on May 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

.travel names [generally] have to match the business name
generics are difficult to register though one company has set of portal sites accross arange of sites like dallas.travel, houston.travel etc.

It may be worth considering .info - There are some very nice .info travel/tourism sites

peru.info
spain.info
southafrica.info
etc.

Alternative Future




msg:3347393
 10:15 am on May 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thanks gpmgroup,

I have already registered the .info .biz .net and some others. It was just a case of grabbing it while it was still available :)

-Gs

Marcia




msg:3350272
 11:25 pm on May 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

I just got off the phone with someone at Godaddy and the latest word (as I understand it) is that they'll be available to "big" registrars (not all) and there's some kind of bidding process they go through.

They'll probably be available for pre-ordering something something like 30 days before actual release for use, and there might be a requirement of a certain number of years to register for. From what little I got, it might possibly not be available to the general public at large, possibly those who already have established accounts.

It was a quick discussion, and very "iffy" and sketchy, but it looks like pre-reserving will be similar to what it was for .info and .biz

Added:

Please, don't anyone take kissand.tel - I want it for myself. ;)

[edited by: Marcia at 11:28 pm (utc) on May 25, 2007]

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