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Who would buy or build a website on a .info domain these days?
Do .info domains have a bad reputation? Can a .info website become popular?
Jon_King

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 11:04 pm on May 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have an opportunity to buy a .info one-word domain for what I believe is a reasonable price.

This is a high traffic word; not a high rank domain, it has no rank whatsoever. It is clean as far as blacklists. BUT... the .info=crap stigma has me baulking.

Yes or no?

 

Webwork

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 11:45 pm on May 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

Does the domain have a history of abuse? Even if it does is it a beauty with a bargain basement price? If so I'd just buy it and work on developing it.

[edited by: Webwork at 1:16 pm (utc) on June 5, 2007]

centime

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 12:38 am on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

my guess is that only some webmasters have bad words to say about .info, the rest off the world probably doesn't care :)

i am delighted with my only .info, tis a one word generic that i hope will be famous for me one day :)

radix

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 1:06 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Sedo's current newsletter is upbeat about geographical .info domains. Actually, they suggest that these domains will see increase in their values.

Jon_King

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 3:54 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Here's another concern, the word, it's trademarked in US, several other countries. The .net and .org have not been used in 5 years according to Wayback.

draggar

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 4:21 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

I would especially if I had a client who wanted an informational site. :)

Quadrille

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 4:31 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Sedo's current newsletter is upbeat about geographical .info domains. Actually, they suggest that these domains will see increase in their values.
They would say that, wouldn't they?

People who stand to profit have been 'talking up' .info since the day it was launched.

I wouldn't 100% dismiss a .info name, if I had a n appropriate use for it; but a 'reasonable price' would be a few dollars ... because there's many, many untried - all available 'new' for a few bucks - why pay more for a used and risky one?

You can never be 100% sure that it's clean until you try it.

What happened to .biz?

radix

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 5:26 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Sedo's current newsletter is upbeat about geographical .info domains. Actually, they suggest that these domains will see increase in their values.

They would say that, wouldn't they?

They could talk up anything they wanted, however, for some reason they chose geographical .info-s. Maybe it's not a mere pitch.

What happened to .biz?

I'm not sure if you are referring to something that happened with .biz or are you simply asking? I'd be interested to know why .biz gets such a bad name these days/months.

gpmgroup

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 9:46 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

.info's prices have risen quite a lot over the last year.

Here are a few sales from the last few weeks

CreditCard.info…....$25,500...3/20/07
Newspaper.info…….$18,483...4/07
Broker.info.............$7,000...4/07
Pets.info..............$12,000...4/07
Bakery.info.............$9,000...4/07
Emergency.info……...$5,000...5/07
horoscopes.info……..$7,250...5/07
Money.info............$22,000...5/07

Webwork

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 9:52 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'd say Money, Pets, Broker and CreditCard .infos were a steal and that in retrospect people will likely groan that they didn't buy them when they could be had for so little.

Money.info for $22K? Geesh, if I was aware of that I me yours truly would have bought it. Unbelievable.

Folks, IMHO it may be a good time to go rummaging in the .info bins. If you can find deals like those above . . .

What am I saying . . .? Ignore Webwork. He doesn't really think you should do this. That really isn't Webwork rummaging through the .info bins . .

[edited by: Webwork at 9:52 pm (utc) on May 11, 2007]

Webwork

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 9:55 pm on May 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

In the interest of full disclosure I only own a handful of .info domains . . but I do kinda like them. However, .infos aren't my gig . . at least they weren't until it just hit me that Money.info was had - HAD - for $22,000.00. Stunning. As gambles go that just isn't one of them. That's Money in the bank, so to speak. ;0/

Quadrille

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 8:19 am on May 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

re. .biz [slightly off topic]

No, I genuinely wondered.

Biz and Info came out at the same time (as I recall), and much of the lower level marketing was a twin campaign - buy both. At the time, I got the impression that .biz was expected to be high profile (some even suggested it would displace .com hahaha).

.info,as we've heard, has got a bad reputation (though I do believe the first few posts were tongue-in-cheek).

But .biz seems to have slipped below the radar; it doesn't seem to have a reputation at all. And I don't recall bumping into many such sites lately.

- or is it just me?

draggar

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 10:36 am on May 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

What about .ws and .name?

I see a very good name available for those two...

MamaDawg

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 11:54 am on May 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

A number of legitimate businesses are starting to use them - I just came across a major pharmaceutical company using a .info for a newly-launched disease information site.

ws and name don't seem to have caught on anywhere.

[edited by: MamaDawg at 11:54 am (utc) on May 12, 2007]

oneguy

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 1:27 pm on May 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Here's another concern, the word, it's trademarked in US, several other countries.

I would probably not be interested in that case, but it's really hard to make determinations on things like that without specifics. You need (to be) a trademark expert at times too, as many cases are different.

As far as .info domains, I love them. I don't buy them for resale, but I think they make great extensions for websites - since I'm generally in the business of providing info. I also think they stand out more than .net or .org. I think sometime in the future, .info domains might get type ins when people become more aware of them, since many people are on the web looking for info.

.biz always seemed cheesy to me.

centime

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 10:41 pm on May 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Will I am actively promoting 1 .info and 1 .biz generics right now, just 2 months in, so I see them as just another extension, plus they are actually easier to remember, i think,

because of the generic part before the .tld,

caveman

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 3:45 pm on May 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

AFAIK, the bad reputation of .info's is limited to a subset of Web people. It's so interesting that people get all wrapped up in debates about things like this. I love it because misunderstandings create market opportunity for those looking at real data instead of the mirror. ;-)

About 10% of the sites I own are .info's, including one I paid several thousand dollars for, two years ago. And I see virtually no reason not to own them.

In the real world, I see NO difference in click through or conversion of my .info domains versus my .com's. That tells me that while consumers clearly attach some signficance to .com's (certainly that's the default type-in for example), they do not seem to hold .info against a site when deciding to click on SERP listing. That being the case, it's down to the name itself.

If there is no hyphen or perhaps one, one or two keywords, and the keywords are core to the category or even just high value niche within a category, that is the main thing IMO.

Clearly, one cannot assume much type in traffic, if any, when making the choice to buy a .info, but that is no reason not to buy one. The buyer simply factors the absense of type-in into the value equation.

In the last two months I renewed over 300 .infos. Got no idea what I'm going to do with them yet. But I sure ain't about to drop them. Heck, I could sell one of them and pay for the annual renewal fees of the lot. :p

cupcakes

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 4:00 am on May 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

I manage about 5 forums of varying topic.

I have banned .info .biz .us and .ws based email addresses from being used to signup, as they all post spam.

Subsequently I view all websites based in that same space to be junk.

WhiteWebServices

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 12:26 pm on May 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

Subsequently I view all websites based in that same space to be junk.

This is over the top. By all means use a .info filter as a crude rule of thumb if it makes your life easier, but labeling all .info sites as junk is simply inaccurate.

Quadrille

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 9:54 am on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

At least one VERY LARGE registrar is selling .info sites at USD 0.99 per year; I suspect that encourages a certain level of abuse.

callivert

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 8:03 pm on May 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

At least one VERY LARGE registrar is selling .info sites at USD 0.99 per year

yep, and that was enough of a reason for me to buy a stack of .info domains. Will I renew them at the regular price? Right now, I don't know and don't care.

cyberair

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 10:40 am on May 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

The reason sedo talks specifically about geographical .info is because of the high quality official country websites using the .info like Spain.info and Austria.info

As a result, people who own city .info names are in a better advantage. A few weeks ago I saw Cancun.info advertised in a banner at the Logan Airport in Boston. This begins to create positive awareness of the extension.

I own a .info that receives offers in the thousands and I would not consider selling for less than six figures. Currently, I am developing it and have quietly launched several test modules.

Time will tell :)

ericob

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 5:47 am on May 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have banned .info .biz .us and .ws based email addresses from being used to signup, as they all post spam.

That may, or may not, be the case, but I don't see that it has any affect on whether dot info is a valuable domain or not.

If I bought one, I wouldn't be creating email names under it, so whether any forum or blog sites blocked dot info email would have ZERO effect on me. All I need is for someone to click a link.

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 6:04 am on May 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

I just checked my domain portfolio and I let all my "free" .info domains expire. At the time, for each .com I registered, I got a free .info which had a 2 year registration on it out of the box. It was a great deal because there was no out of pocket expense for me.

I have the same issue many others have. I see .info as a haven for abuse. Same goes for some of the other GTLDs that haven't really caught on.

I'm sure at some point in the future things will change but, right now .com is the Beverly Hills of GTLDs and always will be. I certainly wouldn't promote a major brand under a .info TLD, would you? And even if I did, I better have the .com, .net and .org versions. If not, there is going to be an absolute marketing nightmare.

I'm going to guess that 8 out of 10 .info domains were purchased because the .com, .net and .org versions were taken. :)

Israel

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 8:43 am on May 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Perhaps spiders are giving them a penalty, but it looks just as legit in a PPC campaign or link on a page as any other .tld to the average consumer.

I think of the handful that I have as being the only domain tlds that actually have a useful word in them.

JMHO:
widget.info - there you go, says Joe or Jane Surfer, information about widgets finally!

Israel

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 1:03 pm on May 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

widget.info - there you go, says Joe or Jane Surfer, information about widgets finally!

Joe: "Oh honey, what was the name of that site again?"

Jane: "I think it was widget.com."

callivert

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 7:14 pm on May 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

"I think it was widget.com."

I'm sure there are a few type-ins for "delicious.com" but is del.icio.us really that worried about it?

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 5:16 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

OK... suppose you wanted to build a widget information site, and you can't get widget.com, but you own both widget.info and widgetinfo.com.

Which would you choose? While I could make an argument for widgetinfo.com, I tend toward widget.info.

centime

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Msg#: 3336414 posted 9:29 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

The days of .com dominance are almost over :)

Its okay if the forums are filled with folk who are .com fans, afterall, its the dominant extension in the dominant internet market, the us , right now.

But, every where else in the world, local tlds have rising importance,
I used to think .com everything till i noticed in the UK that a substantive number of establishmnet firms, and of course governemt depts where using solely, .co.uk, .gov.uk, .org.uk

Soon, anything that didn't have .uk simply had to be an oversea's website, therefore ignore

pretty soon, as the world becomes internet literate, extensions will be recognised simply as internet districts, some regional, some international

they're just zip/post codes :)

HuskyPup



 
Msg#: 3336414 posted 1:08 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

pretty soon, as the world becomes internet literate, extensions will be recognised simply as internet districts, some regional, some international

Precisely and exactly why we have bought and devloped .cn, .eu, .in, .mobi and many, many other extensions including .info and .biz.

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