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Going after my domain's .COM
I already have the .NET, and now want to get .COM
asas111




msg:3253038
 4:14 am on Feb 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

Here is the situation:

-I have had my website since 2000

-In Feb 2000, I was going to register mydomainname.COM, but it was asking for a VISA, which I didn't have at the time. So I said, that is fine, I will ask my cousin for his, and use it. I came back three weeks later to buy it, and coincidentally enough, someone had already taken it!

-So I ended up with mydomainname.NET Not a problem, but of course, would have rather had the .COM one!

-7 years later, my website is very successful under the .NET domain name. And guess what: the .COM one is still reserved, but no website or page is set to it. It has been like this for 7 years. I have ignored this for 7 years, but now it is starting to piss me off: why is he holding this domain name if he is not going to open a website?

I often checked his domain name since 2000, and never did I see it saying something like 'website under construction' or 'coming soon..' etc.

All I see is the following:

www.MyDomainName.COM Not Available
The domain www.MyDomainName.com which you are trying to access is currently unavailable. This may occur for several reasons -- the name may have changed, or it may have moved to a new location. Please try to access the site later, or contact the site's administrator

Bear in mind, I checked the whois, and it is reserved through 2011.

Is there any way I can get this domain name, legally or through negotation? the person very well knows about my website, but not sure if he knows it is successful. I don't have my website registered as a government organization or any legal stuff like that, but if I do, will I have any rights to the name?

please help me with any advise you can give me about how i can obtain this name. Including any negotiation or tactics I can use with him to get it.

I think by ignoring him for 7 years, and never ever asking him 'hey do you wanna sell it?' was a good tactic on my plan. If I did, he would know I am interested and would just raise the price for it.

 

sandyeggo




msg:3253041
 4:19 am on Feb 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

does it fall under any of these icann "reserved domain" guidelines?
[res-dom.iana.org...]

asas111




msg:3253044
 4:23 am on Feb 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

thanks a lot for the reply.

i am not quiet sure which one of these it follows.

can i PM you the link, if it is not against the forum rules?

webdoctor




msg:3253387
 2:45 pm on Feb 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think by ignoring him for 7 years, and never ever asking him 'hey do you wanna sell it?' was a good tactic on my plan. If I did, he would know I am interested and would just raise the price for it.

I'm sure s/he's aware that there's a successful site running on <yourdomain>.NET - and if you approach her/him to buy the .COM, the price will most likely reflect that.

callivert




msg:3253490
 5:28 pm on Feb 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

This is what they've been waiting for all this time: for you to contact them with an offer. They've waited 7 years for you to pick up the phone. They may not settle for a rock-bottom price.

centime




msg:3253497
 5:34 pm on Feb 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

there are a few intermediary services out there, they could act for you

stu2




msg:3254256
 10:25 am on Feb 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just look them up in the whois and email/call them with an offer. They've paid the fees for 10 years. They're sure waiting for your call, but as others have said, it probably ain't going to be cheap.

smartpc




msg:3261059
 4:33 am on Feb 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

you have no rights to the domain.

The .com owner obviously owned the domain before you even started your .net venture. Else you wouldnt have registered the .net.

Make him an offer, the offer though now will be far higher than if you had of made the offer years ago.

Skinny




msg:3273068
 8:14 pm on Mar 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Like everyone said s/he's registering it because they expect you to give them a shout and offer some money.

It will not be cheap especially since your site is doing well.Pay this person off and get the story over with.

Remember the more popular and bigger your site keeps on getting the higher the price gets.

Hope you get it.

Swanny007




msg:3273116
 8:56 pm on Mar 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm in a similar position. I registered a .net name 7 years ago today. In spite of there being a .com domain, the site has grown every year. I get great rankings in the search engine and I'm happy.

The .com version redirected to Google for years, but now the .com domain is a stupid MFA site. Oh well, it doesn't rank but it does get traffic from those folks that type in widget.com. My site is much bigger, better, and more popular so I don't care.

If I was you, I'd try to buy it but really if you're doing well, don't worry about it. If it's something you can't control, then move on, that's life. Sure I wish I could get the .com but I'm doing fine without it.

webdoctor




msg:3275344
 3:32 pm on Mar 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I get great rankings in the search engine and I'm happy.

FWIW, I'm guessing the person owning the .com is also fairly happy

but now the .com domain is a stupid MFA site

Why is this stupid?

What would you do if you were the one owning the .com and you were getting lots of type-in traffic headed for someone else's (<foo>.net) site?

Perhaps this example should be a lesson for all those domain owners just about to start building their brand around a .net domain...

crevier




msg:3276919
 7:39 pm on Mar 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

why is he holding this domain name if he is not going to open a website?

There are dozens if not hundreds of things you can do with a domain name, only one of which is to host a web site. I have domain names that I only use for e-mail. I have a domain name that I use for an ftp server.

I also have a domain name with hidden web content. For example, if you go to http://www.example.com/ you'll see nothing. But if you go to http://www.example.com/some_strange_string_of_characters/, you'd see the home page of a pretty large web site.

My point is that there no way for you to know what someone is doing with a domain name by just making up a URL and visiting it.

callivert




msg:3278077
 2:22 am on Mar 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

There are dozens if not hundreds of things you can do with a domain name, only one of which is to host a web site.

This is an interesting topic. (maybe should be its own thread). Exactly what can you do with a domain, other than, of course, build a website?
Just for fun I'd like to see a comprehensive list of the things you can do with a domain name. Picking it up from Crevier, you can
-use it for email
- use it for "hidden" web content (ie in a folder with no link from the root directory)
- park it
- redirect it to another domain
- use it to store FTP files for public access
- FTP files for private access
...?

walkman




msg:3278086
 2:29 am on Mar 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

>> Is there any way I can get this domain name, legally or through negotation? the person very well knows about my website, but not sure if he knows it is successful. I don't have my website registered as a government organization or any legal stuff like that, but if I do, will I have any rights to the name?

ure you can---by PAYING up his price. None of what you said matters.

simey




msg:3278168
 4:50 am on Mar 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. The original poster said his .net website was very successfull. Why worry about some type-ins that may end up on the .com MFA? It's probably not that great of a number, and a good % of those can probably figure out their way to the REAL website.

In this position, I would rather have a 404 page or a non-content MFA as a 'competitor' than someone who suspects more value of the domain and builts it out.

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