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Expired domain names lose page rank?
yes or no?
Crush

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 7:33 pm on Oct 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Do expired domain names lose page rank?

We bought one a few months ago and it did not lose PR also it is quite powerful in G. We got a bit cocky, registered a load this week and spent some serious $$ but it looks like they are pr0 on some of the data center PR checkers.

Right after they expired (when we won the auction) the index pages went missing too :/

Have we won the idiot prize for not reading enough or it is just a PR tool glitch.

[edited by: Crush at 7:36 pm (utc) on Oct. 21, 2006]

 

specter

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 11:26 pm on Oct 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Expired domain looses PR.
There is a lapse of time to allow the renewal after the expiring date: During this time domain still keeps its PR, but once it definitively expired there is nothing to do...

SlyOldDog

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 10:13 am on Oct 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hmm

Sure about that? We bought a deleted domain at auction. PR6 and it's still riding high 3 months later.

We transfered it to a new registrar immediately and put up new content right away.

Anyone else have the same experience?

[edited by: SlyOldDog at 10:15 am (utc) on Oct. 22, 2006]

Webwork

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 3:41 pm on Oct 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you are talking toolbar pagerank then, according to local experts, there is often a delay of up to 3+ months in updating toolbar PR.

Also, according to local experts, toolbar PR is NOT the same thing as Google's internal PR.

Lastly, PR doesn't hold a candle to actual ranking for keywords in the SERPs.

Lastly lastly - rewriting all the content - after snatching an expired domain - wouldn't pass for a smart move in a number of cirles. Gradual is the mantra of the day.

Lastly lastly lastly ;0) - if you are going after expired domain names and looking at PR I would suggest that you look deep into the links for any quality links AND that you do your level best to determine what traffic those links might drive.

SlyOldDog

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 9:48 pm on Oct 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hey Webwork

I've found the exact opposite. The domain we put new content on is still ranking in google very well 3 months after it was deleted. It's definately not penalised in any form.

I bought a bunch of other deleted domains the other day with heaps of pagerank (and I mean heaps) and put old content back as holding pages and their index pages were all (bar 1) deleted from google within 3 days.

Seems like Google is doing a good job, but they miss some. Or maybe you need to follow some steps for Google not to notice.

The 1st domain was transferred to a new registrar in double quick time. This time they really dragged their feet. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

mariolosek

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 8:39 am on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

I bought a few expired domains with high pagerank, but they lost their value. It could be that in some situations the domain would not loose its pagerank, bnit I believe is is very rarely.

vite_rts

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 9:03 am on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

hi SlyOlddog i've been following this thread with interest, may I ask

The domain that remains successfully

did it retain its pre-deletion TBPR

Did you link to it from other high rank sites under your control

Did you get 3rd party high pr links

An finally, I note you only refer to it ranking well, do you think its google ranking could be primarily related to factors other than true PR or TBPR, perhaps the domain name itself, its reputation, or the links it retained from pre deletion

SlyOldDog

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 9:27 am on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>did it retain its pre-deletion TBPR

yes

>>Did you link to it from other high rank sites under your control

no

>>Did you get 3rd party high pr links

no

>>An finally, I note you only refer to it ranking well, do you think its google ranking could be primarily related to factors other than true PR or TBPR, perhaps the domain name itself, its reputation, or the links it retained from pre deletion

No, it ranks because of only on page factors (new content, new topic). Definately trusted

[edited by: SlyOldDog at 9:28 am (utc) on Oct. 23, 2006]

vite_rts

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 10:14 am on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

perhaps i should pay more attention to my "s names" account then :-)

wmuser

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 8:32 pm on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Expired domains almost always loose PR but sometime they dont,hard to say why

SlyOldDog

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Msg#: 3130124 posted 10:20 am on Oct 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

wmuser, what's your experience and how many times have you tried? And when did you notice your pagerank was gone?

Was the page also dropped from google?

Cheers

[edited by: SlyOldDog at 10:35 am (utc) on Oct. 24, 2006]

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