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Issues With DMOZ Meta Editor
wheel




msg:4107141
 6:11 pm on Mar 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

I guess I'm not surprised, but I've just had a DMOZ metaeditor take out her personal spat with me by removing all my listings from dmoz - every one of them valid and some of them independently reviewed.

I was an editor for my town, and did a good job. Kept listings up to date, listed my business (it's bricks and mortar) as well as my competitors.

Then a meta-editor sent me a very accusatory email, basically accusing me of being corrupt for not listing all my websites. Well, I own and am associated with 100's to thousands. I listed all my main ones, quite openly. But with the tone she took, I basically told her to shove off, I'm not hiding anything but can't be bothered to list 100's of domains and still probably miss some - if she's got a problem with one let me know.

End result, I resigned being an editor.

THe meta editor? Edited my location listing and removed the listing for my brick and mortar business - that's the only change she made.

Then she went through the other categories and removed my other listings - listings that I had received from other editors (through the regular submission process) prior to my becoming an editor.

In short, my listings were there appropriately. The meta editor removed my listings out of personal vengeance, not due to inappropriateness of my listings.

Ironic, consider she was basically accusing me of being corrupt.

Strike me up as one more believer in the corruptness of dmoz as an entity.

 

bill




msg:4108741
 5:24 am on Apr 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

Another way you could look at it is that this editor determined you were a spammer and simply removed all of your listings. I can understand the logic from that side. However, that's not to say what you did was right or wrong. It's just the problem of letting one meta editor be judge, jury, and executioner of the entire matter.

martinibuster




msg:4108742
 5:36 am on Apr 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

DMOZ corrupt? [search.dmoz.org] Nah!

jimnoble




msg:4108756
 6:08 am on Apr 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

So that I can investigate your claims, perhaps you could publish or PM me your editor name.

@martinibuster: The Topix issue was a a deal between the management of Topix and the management of AOL (who own DMOZ). Ordinary editors were not involved (and many disapproved).

martinibuster




msg:4108778
 7:37 am on Apr 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

and many disapproved


So how corrupt does DMOZ have to become until it dawns on you that your admirable efforts are being exploited by AOL and TOPIX?

anallawalla




msg:4108794
 8:07 am on Apr 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

Wheel, I feel for you. When I applied to be an editor I mentioned that I had a few affiliate sites, none of which would be suitable for DMOZ so I was surprised to be knocked back. I have spent over 20 years in volunteer work, including JoeAnt, so I know how rare volunteers are.

While I don't have any "corrupt DMOZ" stories of my own, I have discouraged others from submitting their sites as a result of that strange decision. Tell me, do editors get indoctrination that tells you to treat the world as guilty until proven innocent?

jimnoble




msg:4108936
 3:42 pm on Apr 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

So how corrupt does DMOZ have to become until it dawns on you that your admirable efforts are being exploited by AOL and TOPIX?

1. I've never listed a Topix deeplink so I'm not sure why you think Topix is exploiting me.

2. AOL derives no income from DMOZ but does fund the software development, servers and their operation. In essence, they are paying for my hobby so I guess I'm actually exploiting them.

incrediBILL




msg:4109615
 1:20 am on Apr 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

In essence, they are paying for my hobby so I guess I'm actually exploiting them.


The are also ruining your name by association.

IMHO, I wouldn't be an editor there even if they paid and the pay was good at this point.

wheel




msg:4110100
 12:16 pm on Apr 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

Another way you could look at it is that this editor determined you were a spammer and simply removed all of your listings. I can understand the logic from that side.

Really? What about my sites that were removed that were approved by another editor and listed prior to my becoming an editor?

DMOZ has a meta-editor complain section. I detailed the complaints there. It was 'resolved' in less than 24 hours. And by resolved, what they did was set the status of the complaint to resolved and did nothing else.

It would seem that in the cases where the editors aren't corrupt, then they're fanatics. Which is worse.

I'll stick to paid directories in the future thank you very much.

dvduval




msg:4122648
 5:32 am on Apr 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

The directory industry has come along way since DMOZ was in its prime. It is unfortunate there have been so many problems with DMOZ. I think much of it is a result of no clear leadership, and an unsure budget.

Webwork




msg:4129447
 9:30 pm on May 8, 2010 (gmt 0)

Alrighty . . Once again a DMOZ thread, left open long enough, devolves to little more than the piling on of derogatory comments.

Having removed the last post, for clearly stepping over the lines defined by the Charter, I am now locking this thread.

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