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About getting website listed in Dmoz
Understanding why my site is not listed in Dmoz and what I might do.
Reflections




msg:3354386
 10:19 am on May 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have submitted my site in Dmoz several times but till now it is not listed in Dmoz.

What would be possible reasons behind this?

[edited by: engine at 10:51 am (utc) on May 31, 2007]
[edit reason] no site needed, thanks [/edit]

 

Quadrille




msg:3354514
 12:53 pm on May 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

1. Site doesn't fit their guidelines (general or category).

2. It may be waiting in line; every resubmission puts it to the back of the line.

3. Submission doesn't fit their guidelines (eg multiple submissions).

Directories 101:
1. Read the Guidelines
2. Read the Guidelines
3. Read the Guidelines

See the other 481,927 identical threads on this issue.

hutcheson




msg:3354561
 1:42 pm on May 31, 2007 (gmt 0)

The typical ODP editing process looks like this:

(1) Pick a topic that could use development
(2) Pick a way of looking for good sites.
(3) Look for sites
(4) Among the sites found, pick the most promising looking ones, one at at time, and review them.
(5) If a site appears to contain significant unique content, list it.

Suppose your site is on a topic that (so far) nobody has developed to the maximum extent possible? Then it may never have been missed.

Suppose your site can be found -- only by methods that haven't yet been exploited to its fullest extent? Then it may never have been looked for.

Suppose your site can be found, but it's not readily distinguishable by masses of affiliate/Drop-ship/MFA/doorway spam sites on the same topic? Then very few even of the most promising sites may have ever been reviewed.

Suppose your site can be found, but is not one of the <x> most promising sites that can be found that way? Then it may never have been looked AT.

Suppose your site has been looked at, but its unique information (if any) wasn't readily visible? Then it might have been reviewed based on the more prominent, obviously redundant content.

Or suppose your site has been looked at, but no evidence of authoritativeness was found? Then
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A lot of people tend to think that suggesting a site will make a listing happen. But if you look over the process, you'll see that a site suggestion can't affect #1 (there are many categories vieing for attention) or #2 (there are many ways of looking for sites). And only for one value of #2 does it affect #3 or #4. And, of course, it doesn't affect #5 (once a site has been found and is being reviewed, it doesn't matter whether it's been suggested or not.)

So don't think: I've suggested it, it'll be listed within <x> minutes unless someone can justify why not. Think: I've suggested it, if someone wants to find sites on this subject badly enough, I've guaranteed they'll be able to find it. And after that, it's a matter of someone else juggling THEIR resources and priorities: like a librarian trying to figure out how many books the budget can afford, and (based on patron use) which shelves need new books the worst.

So sure, book publishers, send your catalogs out to all the libraries. But don't expect all the libraries to buy a copy of every book this season. Some books will be bought later when demand and the budget meet; some books will go out of print before passing through any particular library.

Reflections




msg:3360003
 1:08 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thank u all for nice informations.

SteveWh




msg:3360210
 3:45 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've also "seen it said" that review by dmoz can take a long time. I submitted my site last September, I think, and have seen no evidence so far that it's been looked at. They say don't resubmit, so I haven't. Sometime in the past few months, dmoz crashed and apparently some of it was destroyed without backup. Was the submission queue also destroyed? I don't know. I figure there's nothing to do but forget about it and wait. If, but only if, an actual dmoz editor says, "oh, you should resubmit," I will. Dmoz reviewers are volunteers; it's unlikely they ever really have as many reviewers as they could use. I seem to recall someone, somewhere, saying their submission took 2 years to process. So patience may be required. Even if a specific submission that's in the queue doesn't get processed by that route, they might run across the site by some other means, and it could get included as a result of that, I suppose.

Webwork




msg:3360303
 4:57 pm on Jun 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well done! :)

Folks, as always, thank you for keeping the DMOZ dialogue and comments focused on proactive solutions, advice, guidance, etc. Thanks for making the WebmasterWorld dialogue an asset for people looking for practical suggestions and effective answers.

Thank you Hutcheson, once again.

tschild




msg:3360889
 7:34 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've also "seen it said" that review by dmoz can take a long time. I submitted my site last September, I think, and have seen no evidence so far that it's been looked at. They say don't resubmit, so I haven't. ...

If it was in September 2006 your submission may have been one of those lost in the October crash. One resubmission after that time won't get you regarded as a spammer. Before submitting you'd best check for the most common errors that hold up submission:

- wrong category - particularly: overly general category where there is a more specific category, also topical category when your site is specific to a narrow location (in that case, go for the "Regional" category hierarchy).

- wrong title: not the company's name or the site name

- wrong description: something other than a factual description of what the site's about and when's on the site.

Reflections




msg:3361086
 1:45 pm on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thank u all again for nice informations.

SteveWh




msg:3362377
 5:58 pm on Jun 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

tschild, thank you for the suggestions. I think I did ok on the guidelines. There was one thing I wished I could have changed after I pressed the submit button, but of course now I can't recall what it was!

Might wait until a full year has passed before trying again, though, just in case. The site's still growing, so the longer I wait, there more there is for them to see.

Come to think of it, if my submission was one of the ones lost, they wouldn't actually know I was resubmitting, anyway. Until now, I didn't know if any submissions actually had been lost at all.

Reflections




msg:3367338
 12:27 pm on Jun 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes, really a very good tip.
Thank u.

vincevincevince




msg:3371840
 6:42 am on Jun 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Lots of good advice here. One additional point is that if you don't write your title and description correctly, a time-pressed editor is probably going to skip over your site until the next time he logs on and list people below you who've actually read the guidelines first - just because it is faster.

Reflections




msg:3371896
 8:13 am on Jun 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thank u all for the nice tips.
Now I want to make some change in my site according to your tips.
After that I will submit it to Dmoz.

Thank u all again.

hutcheson




msg:3373639
 4:15 pm on Jun 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't want to discourage anyone from helping the ODP editors: and a well-written, well-placed site suggestion is certainly a help.

But a caution. The project is NOT driven by site suggestions. It's driven by websites. So a good site suggestion may get a website a quicker look, but it can do nothing more. Only the website itself is actually considered for a listing. If the website can't stand on its own -- without a suggestion, without a promoter, without an advocate or cheerleader -- then all the suggestions in the world would be spitting into a hurricane....a popular but ineffective passtime.

And conversely, a website won't be not-listed because of a poorly-executed submittal. It'll be not-listed because it, itself, had so-far failed to commend itself as a repository of unique information.

Reflections




msg:3376703
 1:21 pm on Jun 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

I am trying again for listing in Dmoz.
Thank u all for the tips.

centime




msg:3376780
 2:48 pm on Jun 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

This may sound curious, but if you've submitted several times already, further submission might well be an exercise in futility.

I suggest that instead, you spend some time

Do a lot off research on web directories, by yourself so that you know it came from you

You will find that there are up to 5 "grandee" directories that you can submit to, that have essentially the same standing as dmoz, I could name them, but I won't

These alternative directories require a review fee

you'll get a response within 1 week,

If they also reject your site, some off them will explain why,

Then , if you manage to get listed in a couple off these, you might then take another look at submitting at dmoz.

You should also avoid, repeated submission to any directory , within a short period off time( 3 months) unless formally invited to so do

cheers

Good luck

Reflections




msg:3606255
 11:40 am on Mar 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

Thank u all.
Now I am analysing my meta elements again and will submit it to dmoz soon.

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