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Should sites be re submitted to DMOZ?
Now DMOZ site submission tool is working again
gpmgroup




msg:3218688
 12:12 am on Jan 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

There has been quite a lot of discussion about DMOZ losing data in their recent crash. Would it be advisable to re-submit a site that was submitted almost 3 years ago?

(It is a clean site for a traditional 100 year old national company with 11 offices throughout the UK with extensive unique content articles and no advertising or affiliate links etc.)

 

frances




msg:3219732
 1:06 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

My experience is you can certainly resubmit. And I have found the best results nowadays from resubmitting to smaller very local categories - however old and national and well respected the company is.

Others' experience may differ...

pmkpmk




msg:3219747
 1:35 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well, as a DMOZ editor I can tell you that most of the submitted but not yet edited sites in my categories have vanished. I would welcome if the owners would resubmit. Other editors may have a different view on that though.

hutcheson




msg:3220050
 6:37 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't think one re-submittal of a listable site after a year, is ever going to be a problem.

cooljeba




msg:3223432
 11:51 am on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

No way I am going to submit to dmoz and wait for ever to be listed!

pmkpmk




msg:3223471
 12:59 pm on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thank you for this comment. It really added value to the discussion, especially the well put line of argument, in which you laid out your motives, the background research you did, the cost-benefit analysis and the mid-term goals you pursue with this strategy.

Submitting a site to DMOZ takes less than 5 minutes. And since it is true that getting listed can take a while - in some cases years - it is also true that many submissions get listed within days, sometimes even hours. Admittedly the ODP had problems recently. And admittedly it probably runs not as smooth as possible. But getting listed might still be that single backlink, that makes a difference.

And for 5 minutes fire and forget...

hutcheson




msg:3223676
 3:50 pm on Jan 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

>No way I am going to submit to dmoz and wait for ever to be listed!

Actually, neither one of those are necessary. And both of them together aren't sufficient.

But be that as it may. It's a wholly-volunteer-driven process, and (as for all voluntary activities) it's your free choice, and nobody else has the right to criticize you for not participating.

CurtMonash




msg:3244741
 1:11 am on Feb 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Most submissions are gone. So yes, resubmit.

As a general rule -- if you think you might be doing anything wrong, you can use your proposed description as a place to mention it. "Resubmitted because of the outage" is fine. Maybe even "Dual submitted to regional and topical, because 7 other similar sites were dual-listed", although please don't run with that on my sayso as I don't edit in regional.

<No blog or similar links please. Thank you.>

[edited by: Webwork at 1:49 am (utc) on Feb. 7, 2007]
[edit reason] Charter [webmasterworld.com] [/edit]

hutcheson




msg:3244768
 1:55 am on Feb 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Obviously, if many of the suggested sites aren't visible to editors, we know that fewer suggestions are lost than we might think by looking at the unreviewed pools.

There's no official word: but as indication of progress towards opening the unreviewed pools, yet another server has been stirring (the return of musicmoz being the sign). At some point the unreviewed pools will be inundated with suggestions, many of which will have been temporarily "lost". And we'll be able to speak authoritatively on the subject.

But so far, it's just a matter of what we can see (i.e. fewer suggestions) and the certain knowledge that there are more things in heaven and earth than we can see.

gpmgroup




msg:3245850
 12:13 am on Feb 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thats great - Thank you for all the advice :)

I spoken to several editors and submitted to the category they all agree it should be in. I understand from them that it is in an area of the DMOZ that is highly spammed, so hopefully this time it won't get lost for years again in all the spam.

kneoteric_V




msg:3246164
 9:39 am on Feb 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

A small extension of this topic:

Does Dmoz accept new entries as on date? I heard that they aren't accepting new submissions anymore!

I will be happy to know the update.

Thanks in advance!

jimnoble




msg:3246171
 9:46 am on Feb 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

The suggest URL links are functional. They have been since mid January.

Arctrust




msg:3246464
 3:55 pm on Feb 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hey Guys....

I recently submitted a site to DMOZ and as it happens.... it may have been just within a day of when the submit URL came back up.

This of course is recent and since the site has not been included yet I am wondering if it may have not actually made it to the submission pool.

In the past DMOZ editors have generally reviewed sites that were submitted by me or my students within days...and so I was wondering if something might have gone wrong.

Thank you!
ARC

centime




msg:3246961
 11:40 pm on Feb 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

@ alfawolf7

hutcheson & JimNoble are the dmoz editors I 've spoken off, on this thread

The rest of us are the eager web masters seeking to get our sites listed

The editors have told us that we should re submit, and this is why I wondered why you had a different view.

I hope this clarifys the issue

Webwork




msg:3246999
 11:51 pm on Feb 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Moderator's Note: Please maintain focus on sharing actionable information relative to DMOZ. Pejorative ad hominem comments (attacks, sleights, put downs, sarcasm) in public spaces, such as forums, rarely yield anything of actionable or educational value. Furthermore, such comments are prohibited by the WebmasterWorld TOS.

Due to the tendency of useful DMOZ threads to lose focus - and value - as time passes I am closing out the thread whilst its core "insight and information value" is intact.

Thank you to everyone who contributed.

A tip of the hat to hutcheson for his generious gift of his time to share his insights into the process.

[edited by: Webwork at 5:43 pm (utc) on Feb. 9, 2007]

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