| 2:44 am on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)|
"... even though some of their recent actions are a bit questionable..."
They were not so bad.
They could have sold MySQL to Oracle and probably for much more than what Sun paid...
| 2:51 am on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)|
|They could have sold MySQL to Oracle and probably for much more than what Sun paid... |
I am inclined to think Oracle offered less money or more money but in form of "shares" - Sun paid 80% in cash and this is a big part of cash, clearly the owners of MySQL were cashing out, given market troubles I think it was wise to prefer cash IF indeed Oracle offered them more but mostly in locked down shares.
It's a crazy buy for Sun though - they would have been better off saving money to buy AMD, at least this would have made good sense.
| 3:22 am on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)|
You can always look for conspiracies. Are Sun and Oracle involved quietly in the deal? They were together against MS. Sun quite vocal [US Congress 1998] and Oracle quite silent but active in the effort, [techlawjournal.com...] .
The only thing clear is MySQL played well both the open and free software communities. Remember [mysql.com...] [7 November 2002]
Has the free software community played it well? Apparently not because MySQL is the only viable "free" database today.
[edited by: zafile at 3:35 am (utc) on Jan. 18, 2008]
| 3:30 am on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)|
I'm guessing we'll see a big push for LTMP (Linux, Tomcat, MySQL and Java)
mysql>SELECT * FROM `pages` WHERE `page` = 3;
ID ¦ CONTENT ¦ URL ¦ PAGE
Semi naked woman written to ~/sun_page3.jpg
13 ¦ ....... ¦ ... ¦ ....
oh, not that sun?
| 4:59 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)|
zafile alternatives to mysql
| 8:27 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)|
mjwalshe, I did some preliminary research on Postgres and found:
19890602 POSTGRES Version 1.0
19900801 Postgres 2.0 is now available
19910119 Postgres Version 2, Release 0.3
19910314 Postgres 2.1
19910820 Postgres 3.0
19911107 What is Postgres? [groups.google.com...]
19920715 POSTGRES version 4
19920901 POSTGRES v4.0.1
The years passed and in 1996 Michael Widenius began to seriously develop MySQL. He wrote:
"Thu Nov 21 00:58:44 1996 Michael Widenius <firstname.lastname@example.org>
* mysql only used the TCP connection, no socket was ever created
* There was a bug in when reading from getenv(MYSQL_TCP_PORT)
* Added some more start-logging to check for port & socket.
* If something got wrong at startup some threads was kept alive in Linux
* If argument -h to mysqld is a relative path, change it to './'
* Search after the 'unireg' directory from: current dir, mysqld program dir/.. and in env(MY_BASEDIR_VERSION)
* Added longlong support to Linux
* Added copyright notices to all files. Everything should be ready for distribution."
In February 1998 an article helped MySQL gain attention among Web developers. It had a catchy title: "Check out MySQL before you invest in Oracle or Microsoft" [web.archive.org...] .
Then, in late 2000 an article titled "Recent switch to MySQL cuts NASA office’s costs for software support" catapulted MySQL to popularity. See [gcn.com...]
Today, my Web hosting provider offers only MySQL in its shared services.
It seems Postgres hasn't received the level of development that MySQL has obtained in the late 90s and early 2000s. Most of the attention has been focused in MySQL.
Due to Sun buying MySQL, Postgres should receive now some attention.
| 8:45 pm on Jan 19, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Great move by Sun. For those that follow Yahoo's MySQL guru, Jeremy Zawodny, he loves the deal btw.
That is a huge blow to Oracle and Microsoft. It was worth the billion just for that. And to take it off the table. I'm sure the MySQL folks wouldn't have been thrilled to sell it to O/M anyway.
Will this sell more Sun boxes? Probably. Not to webmasters w/ dedicated servers...but to Enterprise folks who bought a Linux box for an app that uses MySQL...now that they can get Sun + MySQL together from one vendor, I betcha they'll sell quite a lot more. And Enterprise is where the money is at for a company like Sun.
| 8:52 pm on Jan 19, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Clark - I couldn't agree more. The this is a big blow to Oracle and Microsoft.
| 1:30 am on Jan 20, 2008 (gmt 0)|
>> For those that follow Yahoo's MySQL guru, Jeremy Zawodny, he loves the deal btw. That is a huge blow to Oracle and Microsoft. It was worth the billion just for that.
I hope they make it back, as Sun is in no position to pay $1 Billion to piss off MSFT or please Zawodny or whatever.
| 1:22 pm on Jan 21, 2008 (gmt 0)|
Posgress had triggers sprocs and improtant features way before mysql did and you can run a lot of oracle PL/SQL code on postgress.
You do know that mysql by default is not a RDBMS that whole pesky ACID thing :-)
I have seen far to many #*$! Open source programs built using mysql to think very higly of Mysql - like the system we took over that loses integetiy in its order tracking good job I spent 5 years on oracle and 4 on mysql and could go in and manualy fix the data base.
And thers the whole series of date problems that mysql has
| 7:53 pm on Jan 21, 2008 (gmt 0)|
MySQL is with no doubt a killer application for the Linux platform. Most cool Linux apps don't work properly without MySQL.
LAMP has made it easy to deploy CMS software. It's a beauty how Joomla or phpBB installs in a *nix server.
From the four, it seems MySQL and PHP are the critical components along with Apache.
What's next? PHP sold to ... Oracle?
Funny things happen when the US economy is in bad shape.
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