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E.U. Court Rejects ISP Illegal Content Filter
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msg:4390685
 2:13 pm on Nov 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

E.U. Court Rejects ISP Illegal Content Filter [bbc.co.uk]
The European Court of Justice has ruled that content owners cannot ask ISPs to filter out illegal content.

The ruling could have implications for the creative industries as they attempt to crack down on piracy.

The court said that while content providers can ask ISPs to block specific sites, wider filtering was in breach of the E-Commerce Directive.


 

tangor




msg:4391051
 5:20 pm on Nov 25, 2011 (gmt 0)

A common sense approach, my opinion. Having ISPs become "policemen" for content is an inappropriate and crazy wish, fraught with too many dangers of error or malice. Copyright holders, generally, are responsible for protecting their content, backed by law(s) with legislated punishments attached.

JAB Creations




msg:4391173
 12:00 am on Nov 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

ABSOLUTELY! Piracy is the real problem.

Who cares if the music publishers conspired together to ensure that they got 70 cents out of every dollar screwing over the people who actually made the music?

Who cares that publishers have been caught using the very materials they're saying they're not being paid licensing fees for when they've been caught doing it themselves?

Who cares that the publishers are racking in the highest profits ever?

Who cares that the material that isn't all that great to begin with is ludicrously overpriced?

Who cares that all the people who run this industry are all entirely corrupt and are the ones complaining about people who don't wish to be part of that completely corrupt system?

- John

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msg:4391183
 1:29 am on Nov 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

Who cares if the music publishers conspired together to ensure that they got 70 cents out of every dollar screwing over the people who actually made the music?

The people that made the music have the choice. The choices may not be ones they like, but they are choices nonetheless.

And with the advent of the internet, there's every opportunity for musicians to work outside the system.

It's no different than any other industry, the middlemen make money. In publishing, it's not the bookstores or the authors, it's the publishers making money. So self publish.

JAB Creations




msg:4391374
 11:35 pm on Nov 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

The people that made the music have the choice.


...and you've never made a choice thinking you knew all the options available to you and then later determined that all those available options were the least desirable? I could think of a few things in my own life that would work as a great analogy that most people could relate to. That's merely justification without any consideration of any kind which doesn't work if you're trying to be objective.

How do musicians know what their options are? They aren't inherently also web designers, web developers, graphic designers and they might not even use computers to begin with much less be aware of the technical terms. Add to the fact that everyone keeps saying Google is favoring big businesses for search results what are the chances that an uninformed artist will find what they're really looking for or even have an idea of what to look for?

- John

tangor




msg:4391395
 3:18 am on Nov 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

Let's not get too far from the topic with asides into the who and how to copyright side. That's different topic.

The last thing the internet needs is for civilians (ISPs) to be turned into unvetted censor police by third parties. The EU court saw that might not be a good idea... and here's hoping the rest of the world sees it the same way.

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