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Top Web Content Writing Tips For A Non-Writer
therealgtron




msg:3985249
 10:38 pm on Sep 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

i can't write well and i refuse to copy content from other sites. is there a way for me to start filling my site with quality content? i don't have the budget yet to hire writers. i really just need music reviews and stuff because those are the new sections of my site that need help.

your suggestions are appreciated. :)

 

StoutFiles




msg:3985269
 11:51 pm on Sep 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

If you need written material but won't write it yourself...and won't pay someone else to do it...well, I don't know what to tell you.

The only somewhat feasible option you have is to let users review music for you and post their reviews. You'll likely need a strong user base for that to work though.

BillyS




msg:3985281
 1:20 am on Sep 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

I suggest that you find something else to do...

Saying that you can't write is pretty lame. How do you know?

tangor




msg:3985291
 1:58 am on Sep 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

You appear articulate enough to create content. It costs nothing to give it a try while you look for writers. Otherwise you're dead in the water. Going forward, even slowly, is better than not moving at all.

D_Blackwell




msg:3985296
 2:20 am on Sep 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

If you need written material but won't write it yourself...and won't pay someone else to do it...well, I don't know what to tell you.

LOL - but true.

"I" is always uppercase, and the first letter of every sentence should be uppercase, so there are signs that writing isn't your area.

However, a broader view of resources at hand may do the trick. Many people are too insulated to realize how many people they know. If you can't afford 'something reasonable', there are larger issues than new content.

If getting past that, family members (you pay them - nothing is free!), neighbors with high school or college age kids..... Mediocrity is rampant, but there is also no shortage of very sharp, very polished, young people that can deliver quality. "music reviews" suggests the potential that hooking up with someone in this demographic is going to get someone that will quickly understand what you need and be situated to deliver.

How many words per review? College kids need money. Pay them something modest to do what they already know and like and it's almost free money for them, and an ideal person for you. Are these classical music reviews, or more contemporary? If you live anywhere near civilization, there are colleges, music schools, and both rolled into one all over the place.

The only caveats are to vet writing talent in advance and to assess honesty. Hard to imagine any teacher, TA, or professor that doesn't know somebody personally for whom they would be willing/happy to vouch integrity. (Due diligence - as with any content writer, would require me to 'search' their reviews from time to time to ensure that they haven't gotten lazy and started lifting material.)

Syzygy




msg:3985415
 8:52 am on Sep 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

i really just need music reviews and stuff because those are the new sections of my site that need help.

Ask your visitors to contribute reviews.

Suvanwesh




msg:3987102
 4:13 am on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

If you're not good at writing,don't copy others article but take their articles as reference & start writing reviews.It's quite simple & you can do it.

D_Blackwell




msg:3987116
 4:32 am on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

...don't copy others article but take their articles as reference & start writing reviews.It's quite simple & you can do it.

IMHO, not simple and a slippery slope. Do the work, pay someone to do the work, or 'entice' someone to do the work. Vet the work and/or resume of options two and three. Writers are typically pitifully paid. It doesn't take a lot of money to buy a lot of skill.

jaiganeshv




msg:3989139
 11:57 am on Sep 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Tips to write your first article:
Think about the phrases that come in your mind when you select a topic to write article.
Jot down them as points.
Arrange them in correct order
Join all them using simple sentences.

Now your first article is ready. Just fine tune it to make sure grammar and spellings are corrected and your point is proved in your article.

Doing this repeatedly would help you gain some writing experience which you can fine tune.

All the Best!

Syzygy




msg:3989286
 5:07 pm on Sep 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Writers are typically pitifully paid.

Only the cheap ones... ;-)

goaliegirl




msg:3989296
 5:25 pm on Sep 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I'm sure you can write well enough to get some content up on your site. You can ask friends/family (or pay someone) to proof-read your text for spelling, formatting and grammmar errors. If you're using MSWord or similar, it will catch most of it and you'll need minimal edits.

D_Blackwell




msg:3989335
 7:07 pm on Sep 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Only the cheap ones... ;-)

LOL - True enough. A lot of competing talent though.

I agree with those that suggest that therealgtron can probably hack something up until decisions are made. However, it was clearly stated that this person is NOT a writer. Maybe they would be surprised, maybe they would improve, very likely that they don't have time..... I applaud the OP for recognizing the limitation (whatever and whyever)! Too many DYI writers shoot themselves in the foot.

Writing well, or effectively (not necessarily the same) are skills. Just as most website owners, IMO, should not be allowed to touch their own websites, a lot of people miss out by not hiring a writer. Second and third rate work goes up, work that will be used, most likely, for a very long period of time

A writer is an investment in quality, no different than any other specialized area. I do a bit of graphic/image work, but anything really important I hire out to someone that specializes in graphics and images. We all have to pick our fights and balance an investment in quality now against the payoff of benefiting from the results for possibly years.

I'm stunned, frankly, that the opinion of those in the "Content, Writing..." forum seem so dismissive of the skills needed. Though I have commented how much talent is out there - most people do not write particularly well, are even less effective, and would benefit in the long run ($ $ $) by utilizing available services.

Demaestro




msg:3989336
 7:21 pm on Sep 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Something I like to do for free or cheap labor is contact a school. Find top ranked students,(writing student in your case) tell them you can't pay them but you will give them full credit and tell them they can reference the site and use you as a reference.

Many schools have a dept that are supposed to help with job placement. Contact them and tell them what is going on, they may be able to put you in contact with some people.

If you find a loyal person and you start making some money offer him/her what you can and try to build a relationship or even a partnership with them.

Students eager for experience may be the answer here.

old_expat




msg:3990123
 5:25 am on Sep 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Besides being a pretty fair writer, I have a modest niche review site. It's doing okay because I didn't write any of it. Nor did I edit any of the reviews.

Listen to Syzygy

The reviews on my site are not very well written, but they sure are believable.

IMO, for review sites, credibility is more important than slick writing.

idolw




msg:3990145
 6:53 am on Sep 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

read more books instead watching TV and browsing the web. it will improve your writing. if you are unable to write you may record podcasts or videos.

Aaron111




msg:3993245
 3:58 am on Sep 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

im sure you can read well if your online :) I have a great spelling tool youlld like to know more about ... lol

Jane_Doe




msg:3993315
 7:11 am on Sep 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

Four Easy Ways You Can Make Money On the Internet with Mediocre Writing Skills!

1. Buy some books or take a class on how to improve your writing.

2. Spend your time on research and have a friend or family member edit what you have written. You can probably make a better living with average writing skills and really cool, unique content than the other way around.

3. If you can program, make some cool tools people will want to use.

4. Make lame lists with catchy titles.

maximillianos




msg:3993918
 3:52 am on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Have someone else write them for you for free.

(I'm being serious)

OddDog




msg:3993969
 7:45 am on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Tips to write your first article:
Think about the phrases that come in your mind when you select a topic to write article.
Jot down them as points.
Arrange them in correct order
Join all them using simple sentences.

Now your first article is ready. Just fine tune it to make sure grammar and spellings are corrected and your point is proved in your article.

Doing this repeatedly would help you gain some writing experience which you can fine tune.

Surprised no one has picked up on this idea. Writing is a skill that can be learnt. It really can. Just as programing can be learnt.

I am not suggesting that anyone can learnt to be a great writer, but a decent one, yes!

yaix2




msg:3993980
 8:47 am on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Isn't that what the whole social web is about? Getting the visitors to write the content for free? Maybe you could give away a free CD for the best review every week or so.

johnnie




msg:3994039
 11:08 am on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Have you considered 'talking' to your computer? Modern speech recognition software is amazingly accurate, providing you have a proper mic set-up. In any case, it always pays off to make your users do some of the work. Hand out a prize for the best review, or something like that.

signor_john




msg:3994146
 2:42 pm on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Not all Web sites consist primarily of text. There are some well-established sites about topics like movies, airline seat maps, international electrical voltages and plugs, world times, and temperature/rainfall averages in cities around the world that are simply compilations of data in well-organized, user-friendly packages. Their "value add" is in how the data is presented. Is there an opportunity for a site within your subject area that isn't focused on the written word?

tedster




msg:3994251
 4:42 pm on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Trying reading your copy out loud - or even better, have someone else read it to you. You'd be amazed at how that helps point out the rough spots. As a general rule, the closer web page content is to spoken language, the better off you are, anyway.

anand84




msg:3994860
 12:58 pm on Sep 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

If speaking English is something that you can do, then probably talk aloud about the latest music release, record them and then jot down whatever you've said word for word (There are software that can do this too).

Then run through the article on MS-Word to correct grammar and spelling mistakes!

MrHard




msg:3995191
 8:06 pm on Sep 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

What are you selling? Most products come with literature, fine print or other verbiage. Copy and paste this. I don't see any ethical reason not to do so.

D_Blackwell




msg:3995196
 8:15 pm on Sep 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

Most products come with literature, fine print or other verbiage. Copy and paste this. I don't see any ethical reason not to do so.

It will fill out the page, but less than zero benefit to SEO to use the same canned content that every other cheap and lazy site seeks and posts.

bigakita




msg:3996296
 5:49 pm on Sep 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

Try article directories and/or contact webmasters in your niche. Many will write an article for you with a credit(link back to their site).

Petrogold




msg:3996937
 9:12 am on Sep 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

It is easy to say than do. Told by our forefathers or scholars as well. All advices here are encouraging & pretty nice & sweet. But is very difficult to start writing. I could bet how many of you here are writing professionally. I am also writing. But does that mean it is a good material for readers. Any way advices are the cheapest material found on earth. If we could apply a small fragment of it to our daily life, especially on the web, we will have an amazing site. Best of Luck!

old_expat




msg:4005459
 7:59 am on Oct 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

I agree with Petrogold. It's fairly easy to set some words on the page. A bit more difficult to do so with grammar and verb tense that doesn't stun your reader.

Writing well can be learned, but not in a few days .. or a few weeks. Some of us have studied the craft for years, taken courses, practiced, and written thousands of pages ..

.. and still, too often, fail to create content that really grabs and holds a reader's attention.

pinoytutorial




msg:4009036
 4:51 pm on Oct 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

IMO, if you can speak english then you could write as well. The guy proved that he can write by asking a question in this forum.
The real matter is probably because of intimidation, fear, anxiety and feeling inferior about yourself. It's all in your brain

As they say, "start small but think big", Google wasn't built overnight. Start writing with something you like. It will be hard at first but you'll get use to it.

I don't know if the guy who asked this question even tried to write something... maybe he can show what he wrote so that we can suggest what needs to be improved.

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