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phpBB 3 Gold Released
rogerd




msg:3527023
 6:51 pm on Dec 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

The most popular open source forum package has just "gone gold" today with version 3.0.0

[phpbb.com...]

Eight "release candidate" versions preceded the gold release.

 

ogletree




msg:3527136
 9:38 pm on Dec 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Man i'm not looking forward to upgrading my very hacked version.

Swanny007




msg:3527168
 10:28 pm on Dec 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

I downloaded it but I'm reluctant to install it. Maybe I'll wait til the new year just in case they have a 3.0.1 released soon ;-) I too have one "hacked" board, that's going to be a big chore. Plus I'm using some commercial scripts that use the phpBB userbase, I'll have to update those scripts too $$.

rogerd




msg:3527323
 1:40 am on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

That's the downside of upgrades. I hate 'em too... A plugin architecture makes it a bit easier to handle - does the new phpBB offer that?

thecoalman




msg:3527370
 3:27 am on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Conversion is quite simple, I had a very "hacked" board myself and it went off without a hitch. You will lose all your mods on the current board, the only ones supported for the conversion are the attachment mod and the birthday mod.

If you concerned about upgrading there is really no reason to wait especially if you just want to give it test run, to convert a current forum you FTP the files to a new folder. Run the install and then the conversion script. It doesn't change your current files or database. You can then test it, to make it live first go into the ACP and change the script location from your test folder to your live folder. you'll then have to change the old forums folder name to something else and change your test forum to the live folder name. **You may want to consider closing your live forum and rerun the conversion or you will lose posts that are posted in between.

For future modifications I haven't used the update feature yet but the new phpbb3 comes with a "auto updater" specifically for updating phpbb3 if you modify it. The basics are it will examine your files, if they have not been modified it will simply overwrite with the new ones. If they have been modified it will show you the code changes and what you have then give you options on how to proceed. From what I gather on their forum this actually works very well.

I've been using it live for a month now, some of the things that have impressed me so far:

1. Overall the ACP is simple to use and administering users is very easy. For example you can click a users profile and then click "test users permissions" which will put you give you their permission so you can see what they see.

2. It's much faster than phpbb2, page load times for the index are averaging about .09 and I have already made some modifications. Also note that's with all the features turned on, GZIP and I not running anything like memcache. Comparatively my phpbb2 forum was coming in around .25

3. Pure CSS formatting and layout, there isn't a table in sight except where there should be.

4. Extensive user control panel, they can control many aspects of the display. Even what is displayed such as limiting post by the times and sorting them. Friends/Foe lists for PM'ing , rules for PM's.... The list is quite extensive.

There's so much you really have to look yourself.

Things not so great:

1. Permissions are still very complicated but I think that comes with the territory. If anything they could have 'uncomplicated" them for those that didn't need the advanced permission settings.

2. It still lacks basic SEO, titles are a mess, no description.

3. It uses a new URL scheme, if you are currently using phpbb2 you might be aware that the duplication of URL's is quite extensive, this exacerbates the problem because now all you old URL's work as will the new ones. Having said that they have taken some steps to alleviate this if you are installing a new forum but there is still 5 possible duplicates that I can find at the moment.

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They have taken some steps SEO wise, Bots now have their own group which in a way is good thing because you can manipulate pages for bots, by default some of the things such as links to search, profile links and the memberlist are denied to bots. Having said that might even be a problem as well because you're flirting with cloaking.

Moncao




msg:3527494
 8:19 am on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

"and it went off without a hitch. You will lose all your mods on the current board"

I would say that is a lot of hitches. Thank G I do not use phpBB (I use VB with VBSEO). Sometimes I have to edit this and that on the add on's (like the photo gallery I use) and / or reimport them, but not lose them!

thecoalman




msg:3527523
 9:24 am on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Considering there's 1000's of mods for phpbb2 trying to make a conversion to support them would be all but impossible. This isn't an update but a new product. Most of the most popular mods for phpbb2 are included in phpbb3. Popluar ones that have not been included will most likely have update from the mod author if for example it included database changes.

Swanny007




msg:3527940
 6:10 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

So I decided to update one of my small boards with a few hundred members and no hacks. The upgrade went very smooth, I'm impressed. There'll be a bit of a learning curve for the admin panel, wow there's a lot more options! So far I'm happy. Now if I could just figure out how to edit some colors to match my site. I guess I'm off to google that...

thecoalman




msg:3528047
 7:26 pm on Dec 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

Most of the colors are found in styles/prosilver/theme/colours.css . Make sure you go into load settings and change "Recompile stale style components:" to yes .

There's also a site that will colorize it for you, simply pick the colors you want and it will generate the required css files and images. I used it myself to get decent start , the CSS file is huge. A whopping 65k+ without Gzip.

mrjohncory




msg:3529155
 12:34 am on Dec 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

I was thinking of starting a board for a site.

So, starting clean phpbb3 should be a better option than 2, right?

Or would there be something to gain from a tried and true?

Thoughts? Thanks.

thecoalman




msg:3529678
 7:07 pm on Dec 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

About the only thing to gain from installing phpbb2 is a vast library of mods, however there all already many in development awaiting validation for phpbb3 already and that number is only going to increase.

I wouldn't consider phpbb2 myself.

rogerd




msg:3529880
 12:38 am on Dec 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

For you phpBB 3 users, how are the spam prevention tools (i.e., preventing automated registration, etc.)?

thecoalman




msg:3529958
 3:49 am on Dec 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

The new image captcha system is pretty good, you can adjust it up to unreadable if you wanted too. Just my opinion but they should have included a question system, it's the only bullet proof captcha system I'm aware of and its so simple.

rogerd




msg:3530675
 10:14 pm on Dec 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Perhaps someone will create a hack or plugin for a Q&A check. I agree that uncrackable images tend to be hard to decipher for humans.

camweh




msg:3531032
 11:48 am on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Perhaps someone will create a hack or plugin for a Q&A check.

I've not looked into this side of it 'cause everything has been plain sailing with not a bot registration in sight.

The option is there to add a required custom profile field at signup.

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