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Facebook to Make Listings Public
badgering

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 11:39 am on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

"Facebook to Make Listings Public via Search Engines
Changes to the social networking site will make the names and profiles of its members available to nonmembers."

[pcworld.com...]

What do you think of this! Type in someones name in a search engine and you could possibly get their phone number, address etc.

[edited by: encyclo at 1:10 am (utc) on Sep. 7, 2007]
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Marshall

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 12:24 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hey, if you don't want people to find certain information, then don't put it on the net!

Marshall

jatar_k

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 1:26 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

you can turn it off in the privacy settings.

badgering

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 1:59 pm on Sep 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yea i know, but 99% of people out there don't. I think its really poor on facebooks part to do this.

lorenzinho2

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 1:59 am on Sep 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

< Type in someones name in a search engine and you could possibly get their phone number, address etc.

I don't think this is accurate. The most you'll ever get is a photo and an option to message them.

And, that info was available to anyone anyway who set up a Facebook account.

I don't see this as any great shakes unless you run a business (LinkedIn, Spock) that depends on organic search traffic from names. FB will dominate those SERPS.

martinibuster

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 3:17 am on Sep 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Agreed. If you're worried about your privacy, watch what you do in Vegas during PubCon because it won't stay in Vegas. It'll end up on Flickr [flickr.com]. :o

jatar_k

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 12:31 pm on Sep 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

the facebook blog has an example of what will be shown and it is the same as if someone used the site search, no personal info aside from your name

engine

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 2:33 pm on Sep 12, 2007 (gmt 0)


System: The following message was spliced on to this thread from: http://www.webmasterworld.com/community_building/3448534.htm [webmasterworld.com] by engine - 3:55 pm on Sep. 12, 2007 (utc +1)


Social network Facebook will soon make the listings - the name and photo - of its 40 million active members available to anyone who searches the Internet on Google, Yahoo and Microsoft. But in its pursuit of building a bigger audience, Facebook has set off privacy alarms among customers who don't necessarily want their listings to be an open book.

Some Facebook users say they are perturbed because they joined the service so they could choose whom they communicate with - and not be exposed to the Internet at large.

Privacy Fears As Facebook's 40 Million Members Become an Open Book [news.yahoo.com]

rohitj

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 3:51 pm on Sep 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

A lot of users of facebook actually implement the privacy settings as well. It's pretty simple (and visible) to do. When one puts in their phone number, address, email, and other personal info, they do stop and think about who can see it.

stef25

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 4:06 pm on Sep 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

1. FB is not open - you can control everything in privacy settings and even show a limited profile to selected people. all this stuff about employers scanning FB to find info on job applicants is bs. You can select individually who sees what

2. If you dont want it online, dont put it there

Maxnpaddy



 
Msg#: 3442878 posted 4:13 pm on Sep 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

Do they stop and consider what info they put in? I think people blindly give up personal info without actually realising what they are doing.

Got stopped by a market researcher one time and the guy wanted all manner of info from me eg: Name, Address, phone number etc - No way is he getting that.

What's next for Facebook and other social sites, selling contact info I've no doubt.

I can see the spam problems escalating.

stajer

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 4:39 pm on Sep 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't know where they get that 40 million number, but facebook is only 6-7 million. MySpace is over 50 million I believe.

klown

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 1:26 am on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

They did put a big huge text banner at the top of your profile telling you that this would be going public.

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 8:15 am on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think its really poor on facebooks part to do this.

Well - maybe - but since 36 million people can already see you INSIDE facebook, the other 4 billion is a bit irrelevent isn't it?

It's a brave new world... I can see you getting into your car from space and I can see your name on the SERPS. But I USED to be able to see your phone number in the phone book AND your address, so I guess not so much change after all.

In honesty - I think you are right. This IS a mistake for Facebook and somewhat immoral not to have it "opt in" instead of "opt out". I am especially surprised that the defaul (as I found out yesteday) allowed searchers to send an email through the facebook system. Although presumably using a Catcha to prevent bots.

RichTC

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 9:26 am on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

I dont see a problem with it because you shouldnt publish something you dont want others to find.

Im still amazed that so many people are happy to publish their private life history on the net, perhaps its just an age thing the older you get the less likely you are to want to have your private life plastered all over the internet but i certainly wouldnt want my own details on facebook and this security confirmation sort of underlines why i shouldnt.

In real terms, this move hasnt made the info much more available than it is already if you are an avid user of facebook. However, if you wanted details about say "Joe Soap" and didnt know that Joe was on facebook, in the past you wouldnt have known about it or visited the site.

Under the new arrangement you will no doubt be able to search on "Joe Soap" in one of the major search engines and find that "Joe" has a feature on facebook, which obviously would bring attention to it and you may then be more likely to visit the facebook site to read "Joe Soaps" details.

So in conclusion, this move increases the exposure of the facebook members private information to people outside of the student community or to people that the member may not appreciate visiting their site but as stated if they didnt want it viewed they shouldnt publish it in the first place.

WiseWebDude

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 12:56 pm on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

I know a LOT of people that are pissed over this. The only reason they used Facebook is because it was actually private. This could be one of those seriously major blunders along the same lines of the Coke debacle. IMHO, they are making a serious mistake and all simply because of greed. It will backfire on them, I think. For those who say well you shouldn't post stuff you don't want public is a false premise because they lured people in with the idea of privacy, then jerk the rug out from under them and open them up for the world to see. It doesn't seem right to me at all. That is the same thing as advertising 99% off on a steak, the gullible one comes in to get the steak only to find out they really meant a BITE of steak. Bait & switch here?

:(

[edited by: WiseWebDude at 1:01 pm (utc) on Sep. 13, 2007]

vincevincevince

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 12:59 pm on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

with every mistake comes a market niche...

stef25

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 2:39 pm on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

I dont think people here understand that you can FULLY control what appears visible to others ... members or non members. the only thing people will be able to see from google serps is your name and profile picture.

why all the hysteria?!

Gibble

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 2:47 pm on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)


I dont think people here understand that you can FULLY control what appears visible to others ... members or non members. the only thing people will be able to see from google serps is your name and profile picture.

why all the hysteria?!

My thoughts exactly.

Romeo

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 3:59 pm on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

the only thing people will be able to see from google serps is your name and profile picture.

Whatever it is, there is a difference if I have to go to lot of different platforms to do specific lookups each to (re)search a person, or if I get a complete "everything and anything, and there is even more here and over there" dossier with just one google query.

And if you think about retracting your data from FB, it is too late, your data will independently survive in Google's cache for a long time (for ever?).

I don't like that and consider it a bad move of FB, which, fortunately, I am NOT a member of.

Kind regards,
R.

vincevincevince

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 4:12 pm on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

Let's not pretend that the privacy protection in facebook is bulletproof. If I wanted you to add me as a friend, I'd just need to find a class / graduation photo of you, open an account named as someone else in the photo using a cropped face as my logo and you'd approve me almost instantly...

WiseWebDude

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 4:21 pm on Sep 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

why all the hysteria?!

Um, I don't consider a discussion hysteria. I could see if we were standing out on the courthouse lawn holding picket signs, but we are just stating our opinions on the matter is all. All I am saying is that ever since I heard of Facebook, I have thought of it as a more private place than MySpace and the like. I wouldn't join MySpace, but have thought about joining Facebook because of their policies...they will lose that crowd now and as Vince said another can take over the helms of being host to the more discerning crowd then. I think of MySpace as a bunch of junk and people signing up to do nothing but advertise and act stupid, Facebook as a place to have a private place on the net without having to make your own site, etc. That's MHO.

stakaman

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 10:58 am on Sep 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

This should be clearly opt-in rather than a hidden opt out.
Facebook is far too personal. The social media champions should know this better.

opt-in

callivert

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Msg#: 3442878 posted 10:05 pm on Sep 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

This should be clearly opt-in rather than a hidden opt out.

my guess is that nobody would opt in. That should tell them something.
what is the purpose of this? to get a bigger profile in the serps? if so, it's a foolish move. They had a solid, visionary model. Facebook apps is the way of the future for social networking. And yet here they are playing pathetic games with SERPs rankings, using members' names. Tawdry.

walkman



 
Msg#: 3442878 posted 6:00 am on Sep 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

I just disabled every thing there. No notices to others when I sneeze and no search engine listing. THANK god I never posted much to begin with.

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