walkman

msg:4076468 | 6:36 pm on Feb 8, 2010 (gmt 0) |
I think we can be sure these kids didn't hack google
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wheel

msg:4076480 | 6:47 pm on Feb 8, 2010 (gmt 0) |
And by 'shuts down' they mean 'recruits'?
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Rugles

msg:4076512 | 7:38 pm on Feb 8, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| the country's biggest hacker training site |
| Meaning there are plenty more out there and this was the highest profile site. How nice.
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Excellira

msg:4076586 | 8:53 pm on Feb 8, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| I think we can be sure these kids didn't hack google |
| Shouldn't this read: "I think we can be sure that Google didn't hack them". ;-)
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iThink

msg:4076591 | 8:54 pm on Feb 8, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Have they actually closed the site or just moved it to a different domain?
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Seb7

msg:4076652 | 10:34 pm on Feb 8, 2010 (gmt 0) |
The fact that China let websites like this run so long says a lot about China I think. They may just be bunch of script kiddies, but they would still cause a lot of damage across the internet.
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JS_Harris

msg:4076681 | 11:40 pm on Feb 8, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Here, i'll answer all those questions, let me pull up a copy of cache real quick.... oi Once something has been on the net it is near impossible to remove completely.
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bill

msg:4076711 | 1:49 am on Feb 9, 2010 (gmt 0) |
The Chinese government does like to make examples of people who make them look bad internationally. Look at what they did to the people involved in the tainted milk scandals recently. Many of them were executed. I wonder what they'll do to these people.
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JS_Harris

msg:4076758 | 4:13 am on Feb 9, 2010 (gmt 0) |
The tainted milk scandal involved the use of Melamine (industrial solvent) to water down baby formula enough to fool inspectors in an effort to increase profits. The two sentenced to death had no morals and caused infant lives. I don't think attacking the net will have the same impact, even for China, but yeah... we'll see.
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KenB

msg:4076770 | 4:40 am on Feb 9, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| And by 'shuts down' they mean 'recruits'? |
| That was my first thought. Still shutting down one hacker training center doesn't even put a dent in things. I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands more just like them in China alone. Then there are countries like Russia, on top of that.
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Green_Grass

msg:4076775 | 5:25 am on Feb 9, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Poor scrapegoats. I feel for their parents.
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kapow

msg:4077153 | 7:36 pm on Feb 9, 2010 (gmt 0) |
Here we go with the usual uninformed round of China's bad, America's good - posts. | Look at what they did to the people involved in the tainted milk scandals recently |
| The tainted milk scandal used Melamine because it is one of the only chemicals that registers as protene in tests i.e. they were literally starving babies to death, using a very technical procedure to evade detection, so their milk was cheaper to produce and they would profit. You would be hard pushed in your wildest imagination to think of a worse crime. I was very impressed at the reasonability of China to execute those monsters. | The fact that China let websites like this run so long says a lot about China I think. |
| The West doesn't allow any dodgy sites to remain online does it?
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KenB

msg:4077188 | 8:23 pm on Feb 9, 2010 (gmt 0) |
| The tainted milk scandal used Melamine because it is one of the only chemicals that registers as protene in tests i.e. they were literally starving babies to death, using a very technical procedure to evade detection, so their milk was cheaper to produce and they would profit. You would be hard pushed in your wildest imagination to think of a worse crime. I was very impressed at the reasonability of China to execute those monsters. |
| There is no comparing these hacker sites to what those greedy monsters did in regards to putting melamine in milk. Putting melamine in milk was mass murder plain and simple. In the case of the tainted milk, the Chinese government had to send a strong message to those who would taint food products just for a little extra profit. | The West doesn't allow any dodgy sites to remain online does it? |
| I agree that "dodgy sites" are a world wide problem and not something that is unique to China, however, I also think the Chinese government has ignored the problem more than most governments. In part I think this was because it wasn't causing them national embarrassment and there were higher priority issues to address. Now that the Google issue has caused China a national embarrassment the government is stepping in to make examples of a few as a warning to the rest. I'm not saying that other governments don't do the same thing -- just look at how the U.S. Fed allowed Lehman Brothers to go under while saving other financial institutions. What I'm saying is these arrests have a curious timing and match the pattern of the way China responds to outlaws causing a national embarrassment.
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Digmen1

msg:4077405 | 3:10 am on Feb 10, 2010 (gmt 0) |
One of the largest sites and they arrested 3 guys ! They will be up an running in the building next door by tomorrow, if they are like any other Chinese counterfite business.
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