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301 redirect question
skyman




msg:4563087
 1:01 pm on Apr 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

hello guys,

I want to do some 301 redirects, but not for the same reasons everybody usually does 301 redirects for..

I have this exampleolddomain.com and would like to keep that domain and use it for a different purpose than the one I am using it now.. so I don't want the homepage to lose any PR..

I will redirect 700 pages to newdomain.com and remove those pages from olddomain.com

I will than install a new script to olddomain.com and would like to continue using it..

Do you think the fact that I will be redirecting 700 pages to the newdomain.com will effect the ranking that index page of olddomain.com

this is a case where, actually, olddomain.com is more important for me and I will have hundreds of new pages there.. but only doing redirects to the newdomain.com because I want to delete those pages from olddomain.com, but want copies of them in the newdomain.com

I hope this was not too complicated but I searched the net and couldn't find an answer to this question..

I don't want google to remove the index of olddomain.com just because I sent 700 pages to a newdomain.com

 

Dideved




msg:4563088
 1:25 pm on Apr 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

The first part of your request -- to redirect from olddomain to newdomain -- is actually straightforward, and the Apache documentation covers exactly this scenario.
[httpd.apache.org...]

But the second part of your request -- to also have a different site running on olddomain -- presents a problem. What happens if your new site needs a URL path that your old site used to use? You can either redirect to the original content or you can show the new content, but you can't do both. In particular, olddomain's homepage won't be able to redirect to newdomain's homepage, because now olddomain needs to serve a new and different page.

It's also entirely possible that Google will transfer your PR to newdomain rather than retain it at olddomain. Here's what Google has to say about moving a site.
[support.google.com...]

Dideved




msg:4563092
 1:29 pm on Apr 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

Here's the correct link to the Apache documentation. (This forum apparently doesn't handle fragment URLs very well.)

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/rewrite/remapping.html#movehomedirs
skyman




msg:4563093
 1:32 pm on Apr 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

thanks..

the thing is most of my olddomain.com traffic comes to my homepage.. I am not redirecting that, because I will continue using it for another content.. just redirecting 700 pages (but definitely not the index)

If anyone comes following an incoming link, I will probably just place a banner letting visitors know, that content they were looking for is moved to newdomain.com

what I need to know: will my homepage lose it's ranking.. if not, that's great.. because the main index has got enough traffic and I will be happy to keep that..

all I will be doing is simple redirects like:
olddomain.com/oldpage.html to newdomain.com/folder/newpage.html

olddomain.com/oldpage2.html to newdomain.com/folder/newpage2.html

then remove olddomain.com/oldpage.html and olddomain.com/oldpage2.html and so on..

not touching olddomain.com(index) it will remain where it is because I will be installing a new script and create many new pages there as well (for a different content) like:

olddomain.com/newfolder/newpage.html

If I am not losing homepage traffic and PR of the index page that is awesome.. If I will be losing PR juice of index page just because I moved "700 other pages", then I can't do this..

I did redirects before, but never in a case where I don't want to lose PR that the index of olddomain.com has..

g1smd




msg:4563118
 3:19 pm on Apr 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

Your redirect to the new site will need to be very carefully crafted in order to redirect old URLs, but not redirect requests for the root or for any of the new URLs that will appear on the old site.

lucy24




msg:4563198
 7:26 pm on Apr 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

I have this exampleolddomain.com and would like to keep that domain and use it for a different purpose than the one I am using it now.. so I don't want the homepage to lose any PR..

Won't work. Google is many things but it is not stupid, and it will soon figure out that yesterday's example.com is not today's example.com.

skyman




msg:4563676
 11:26 pm on Apr 10, 2013 (gmt 0)

thanks for all the replies..

especially g1smd.. I think you understood my question the best..

I have started to slowly (but carefully) redirect all those 700 URLS without touching the homepage.. I don't care about the traffic from those 700 pages as long as I retain the traffic my index page gets at the olddomain.com

what I understood from g1smd's post is that as long as I don't (by mistake) redirect the root, and the new URLs that will appear on the olddomain.com, I will be fine..

that's all I needed to know..

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