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Massive Cuil Search Engine Launched
"World's Largest Search Engine" is the claim
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msg:3708959
 4:43 am on Jul 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

SAN FRANCISCO — In her two years at Google, Anna Patterson helped design and build some of the pillars of the company’s search engine, including its large index of Web pages and some of the formulas it uses for ranking search results.
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The makers of the Cuil search engine say it should provide better results and show them in a more attractive manner.

Now, along with her husband, Tom Costello, and a few other Google alumni, she is trying to upstage her former employer.

On Monday, their company, Cuil, is unveiling a search engine that they promise will be more comprehensive than Google’s and that they hope will give its users more relevant results.

[nytimes.com...]

 

zett




msg:3714704
 12:11 pm on Aug 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

>What do *I* get in return?

Same thing as other engines - the possiblity of traffic.

Brett, how am I supposed to get traffic when MY images are standing next to results for COMPETING web sites, leading not to my site, but to the competitors sites? And my page is nowhere to be seen?

MadeWillis




msg:3714754
 1:52 pm on Aug 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

My first sale from cuil this weekend. YAY!

Murdoch




msg:3714819
 3:09 pm on Aug 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

block it from your images directory until they get it fixed

I think the problem is more the fact that they already have the images stored on their server. Blocking them now will do you no good.

chicagohh




msg:3714907
 5:01 pm on Aug 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Their marketing is working in one way - One of my larger clients contacted me today and wants to advertise on Cuil.

futuresky




msg:3715110
 9:55 pm on Aug 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Ick - it looks like the french military victories test fails in cuil. The "stupid" page is top result like in google. Out of cuil, google yahoo and ask, only ask.com isn't stupid enough to have been fooled by that particular term.

Hee hee - miserable failure seems to get an interesting top result. That's karma for you.

zett




msg:3715690
 2:27 pm on Aug 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

486 posts long over 17 pages

I think that shows that Google needs competition. Urgently.
(But no, Cuil is not it.)

According to Alexa, cuil.com is already cuiling off again. LOL. Their fifteen minutes of fame lasted a bit over a week. :-)

webfoo




msg:3716054
 9:05 pm on Aug 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think that shows that Google needs competition. Urgently.

Google does need competition. They're taking over the world. Literally. I'm serious. But you're right, Cuil is not that competition.

dusky




msg:3716216
 2:02 am on Aug 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

When everyone realises that the Twiceler bot belongs to them and unblock it, they'll get to their point. I banned that spider through robot.txt and mod_security, I realised it was theirs now and unblocked it to give them a chance. Many people said even with banning it, it got through, well, I don't blame cuil as most people did not realise and banned them, how else could they index 100s of billion pages other than to ignore the robot.txt.

The reason I want to give them a chance is for their new innovation which will (after fixing the current bugs) become the envy of Google. It is a danger to have a monopoly on information presentation to search seekers, the web needs at least two dominant search engines competing head on. Yahoo and MSN are good directories and web services, Google is predominantly a search engine first and other things second. I feel if any other search engine likely to surpass google, this is it. Given the staff pedigree cuil has on its payroll, they are very likely to attract the cream from Google, yahoo, MSN and other specialised "search research", Google shareholders lookout and potential investors get there early, I am!

Quadrille




msg:3716405
 9:38 am on Aug 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

most people did not realise and banned them

Most people wouldn't know what robots.txt was if it bit them - even here, what percentage of people block robots routinely?

And either way, that does NOT justify them ignoring one of the few rules that apply to serious SEs.

If you really want competition for Google, do you really want to start by throwing away the rulebook?

Misscj




msg:3716406
 9:43 am on Aug 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

dusky: "Given the staff pedigree cuil has on its payroll, they are very likely to attract the cream from Google, yahoo, MSN and other specialised "search research".

The staff pedigree is good, but Google always attracts the cream of the crop. Cuil despite it's clever people hasn't done enough to inspire long-term employment expectations just yet imo. There are also loads of very good research projects that attract people too and which are very competitive, although I think the motivation to work at Google is also money. The "cream of the crop" are usually deeply interested in their research area and if it's not available at Google, they'll take up root somewhere else, trust me, I've seen it happen. So if Cuil offer this opportunity then they may well go there. Although there is definitely the chance to work with the world's best outside of both Google and Cuil. And all the other engines for that matter. Believe it or not, people do turn down Google too.

Romeo




msg:3716937
 7:23 pm on Aug 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

Opened my robots.txt for the twiceler a few days ago, but the bot continues to just read the robots.txt and does not start spidering.
Syntax is OK, and Goog/Yhoo don't have any problems.

Well, perhaps they are busy elsewhere.

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